Is it just me or did the flight model change again?

Feels a lot draggier now, even though you have to push the nose down on final. I completely botched the first few carrier landings today.

Did you guys notice any differences as well? I’m kinda confused.

Seems the same to me. Didnt notice any major changes.

Really seems like it.. I feel it's easier to fly the ball now.

Interesting. Thank you for the replies. Goes to show how subjective this topic is.

If you have to push the nose down on final, you're not flying on speed angle of attack... that kind of hurts your credibility to assess the flight model

:)

Trim it to fly on speed and your landings will be so much easier.

A quick tip is to not engage flaps and landing gear until you're at around ~180 kts... it'll be much easier to trim to fly on-speed angle of attack the closer you are to approach speed when you deploy flaps and gear.

It’s funny, I felt that I needed less constant throttle adjustment in carrier landings last night and attributed it to a change in the flight model. Maybe I am finally getting better, lol, after practicing hundreds and hundreds of carrier landings.

If you get a chance, check out some Carrier landings from the cockpit and watch the pilot really working the throttle to stay on track.

I've never seen a pilot just setting and forgetting or using auto-throttle right to the deck. It needs constant adjusting. So you are probably right on if you had to work at the throttles to stay on the approach.

that kind of hurts your credibility to assess the flight model

I guess. I'll leave the criticism for the real life hornet pilots to pass on for the future. Apparently one of them flew the DCS Hornet very recently anyway and deemed the flight model to be too draggy still. What do I know though. They'll figure it out anyways, it's just such a subjective topic.

About the AOA thing, I never had problems with that. I think it had more to do with the fact that it has been over two weeks since I last booted up DCS. I just had to pull back the throttles more aggressively in order to not float too much. The whole thing just doesn't feel 100% natural or...right yet? But again, what do I know. The flight model is still WIP after all.

Still, thank you for the tips. I will try out the 180kts thing. Until now, I dropped everything at 200ish kts.

Now I know there is really no stupid questions but may I ask if you had any ordinance on, bombs, missles, rockets? that may have contributed to more drag? Probably not but just want to know. Cheers.

I guess. I'll leave the criticism for the real life hornet pilots to pass on for the future. Apparently one of them flew the DCS Hornet very recently anyway and deemed the flight model to be too draggy still. What do I know though. They'll figure it out anyways, it's just such a subjective topic.

 

About the AOA thing, I never had problems with that. I think it had more to do with the fact that it has been over two weeks since I last booted up DCS. I just had to pull back the throttles more aggressively in order to not float too much. The whole thing just doesn't feel 100% natural or...right yet? But again, what do I know. The flight model is still WIP after all.

 

Still, thank you for the tips. I will try out the 180kts thing. Until now, I dropped everything at 200ish kts.

Now I know there is really no stupid questions but may I ask if you had any ordinance on, bombs, missles, rockets? that may have contributed to more drag? Probably not but just want to know. Cheers.

StormBat - so you've graduated from Spits to Jets. :)

Nice to see you still around bro. !

Now I know there is really no stupid questions but may I ask if you had any ordinance on, bombs, missles, rockets? that may have contributed to more drag? Probably not but just want to know. Cheers.

Just the basic loadout really. 2 AIM-9X and a centerline fueltank. I guess I am just out of practice.

No changes have been made.

Why is a clean hornet, with 6,000 obs of fuel, once again needing full mil to make the last 180 turn into the carrier groove? This was no issue prior to the patch and everyone I know that flies this thing has noticed it to. I have over 150 traps in your hornet and something is definitely off right now.

Feels a lot draggier now, even though you have to push the nose down on final. I completely botched the first few carrier landings today.

 

Did you guys notice any differences as well? I’m kinda confused.

It always pops up for me once I go to Full Flaps

Why is a clean hornet, with 6,000 obs of fuel, once again needing full mil to make the last 180 turn into the carrier groove? This was no issue prior to the patch and everyone I know that flies this thing has noticed it to. I have over 150 traps in your hornet and something is definitely off right now.

I definitely don't need full mil during the 180

Maybe post a video so we can assess your technique

I felt like it was easier to maintain onspeed AOA for Case I recovery mission.

Did this today with a centerline tank. Messed the break up a little but otherwise nothing has changed with this update

Did this today with a centerline tank. Messed the break up a little but otherwise nothing has changed with this update

You make it look easy mate - nice trap!

I am also not noticing any change in the flight model... wingman also didn't mention noticing any difference.

I can confirm, ZERO changes were made to the Flight Model.

If you'd really like to see FM changes from patch to patch you could save a .trk file and then replay it in the newer patch. In fact this goes for a lot of things and something I do regularly when testing.

That’s a great idea. I will do that in the future, thanks!

I can confirm, ZERO changes were made to the Flight Model.

 

If you'd really like to see FM changes from patch to patch you could save a .trk file and then replay it in the newer patch. In fact this goes for a lot of things and something I do regularly when testing.

What had to be done to correct the launch issue regarding blacking out from excessive bounce?

What had to be done to correct the launch issue regarding blacking out from excessive bounce?

No idea on that one I'm afraid.