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Old 07-11-2019, 09:02 AM   #11
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Indeed creative, and worth trying if you have time when setting up a tracking shot. I imagine even wiggling side to side slightly will do it with vertical scan.

But like I said if it's really hectic, if I'm going for a 90 degree target aspect short range snapshot, I've decided I prefer the fixed gunsight.
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Old 07-11-2019, 09:15 AM   #12
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I imagine even wiggling side to side slightly will do it with vertical scan.
OK, but does it lock instantly or you need to be lucky? Afaik the radar antenna position is at least partially simulated.
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Old 07-11-2019, 05:23 PM   #13
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Nope that’s how it works.
It shouldn't be nothing like that in the real Mig-29.

Reason, your gun is selected by physically flipping a trigger UP in your stick.
As long the weapon release trigger is flipped up, you are locked to cannon.




So why would Soviet designers make it so that losing a target lock in close-combat (because chaff, the target going out of the field of view of sensors or so) causes you to switch to rockets (missiles), to switch the sensor scanning mode or activate the sensors, and requires you to flip the cannon trigger down/up to select cannon again?

Like seriously?
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Old 07-11-2019, 08:48 PM   #14
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Someone who can quote the Mig-29 flight manual can clarify it.

But I guess how it should go is this:

1) When you select a specific targeting mode like vertical scan, you will stay there until you select a another mode.

2) When you select cannon (flip the mechanical trigger) you can not launch rockets (guided or unguided) as you have deselected them, and you have cannon always in use regardless what is your targeting sensor, air-ground / air-air mode whatever...

3) When you lock target with the sensor (be it IRS via HMS or radar via vertical scan) you will get the cannon reticle and the firing solution. If you lose the lock, you return to the targeting mode.

4) You need to specifically select the funnel mode for the cannon, as it is a backup targeting mode where no range is metered nor the target lead. So it is a old-school gyro corrected visually ranging based the programmed target size. And that mode shouldn't come visible at any given moment do you have target locked or unlocked unless you specifically switch to it.

Meaning, if you have vertical search going and you lock the target, you will get firing solution for whatever weapon you have available for air-air mode. If you lose the lock, you will return to the search mode.

You never need to switch weapons back and worth, not need to change the targeting modes or search modes, no need to see a backup funnel gunsight etc.
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Old 07-12-2019, 05:17 AM   #15
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Someone who can quote the Mig-29 flight manual can clarify it.

3) When you lock target with the sensor (be it IRS via HMS or radar via vertical scan) you will get the cannon reticle and the firing solution. If you lose the lock, you return to the targeting mode.

You never need to switch weapons back and worth, not need to change the targeting modes or search modes, no need to see a backup funnel gunsight etc.
According to the ED manual for the MiG-29 the default sensor for vertical and boresight mode is the IRST. The radar can be used but when you engage vertical scan it uses the infrared sensor.
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