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Old 05-22-2020, 08:09 PM   #11
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Yeap! Almost the same boat;D
Well I have a 2070 S, its a little on the lower end but it has helped a bit.
16 gb DDR3, and Corsair water cooling.

But I do have a reverb pro v2 and frankly DCS isn't a great experience with my rig and IL2 is always around 45 fps, but it's horrible when looking to the sides (everything warps). I can't spot a thing!
I'm new to the VR scene, so it has been like taking a degree; setup and redo it, and trying it again, edit this file, try this mod, vr on, vr off, not its jagged, now it's slow.

Anyway.
I was considering 32GB of RAM at least. Everyone is bashing Intel over AMD, but both DCS and IL2 aren't going to change engine anytime soon and it is still up to core speed.
Here in Portugal 3900X is roughly the same price as i7-10700K i9-9900KF (around 490/500 euro). And I'm really confused, and I've read so many things and seen so many videos :|



I have the same headset and my friend that I fly with has the 2070s with the reverb v2 too there are a few things you could try as that setup should be great. I have all settings at max apart from shadows as that destroys my CPU frametimes. But I have 2xMSAA and 1.4 in game PD (Steam SS is worse for my setup and there seems to be some misinformation about how Steam SS works compared to native PD scaling)


Do you have FPS VR? It's a super cheap but invaluable app to get to fine tune your settings.
Also, have you enable motion reprojection? What refresh rate are you using in WMR? Drop me an PM if you want to discuss it as I have spent hours and hours now fine tuning for the best looking results, I'm a bit of a screen snob so can't tolerate shimmering etc. And we have really similar setups. I don't get on well with the shader mod for VR, it's amazing work from the guy that did it but it just looks a bit rubbish with stuff disabled and turned down. I'm looking at applying just the screen mask though as that is great for not rendering stuff we can't see.


I've had Rift, Odyssey+, Pimax 5k, Pimax 8K, Rift S and now Reverb Pro which I find is by far the best out of all of them for flying, it's just a shame about the hideous controllers though!! Let me know if you want to chat about settings
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Old 05-22-2020, 08:16 PM   #12
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From what I've read you need to factor in the price of a cooling system that only a few years ago would have bought you a high end GPU, it looks like once the revs get near the red line, you can boil soup.



Indeed, I read it's something crazy like 350w

It's not too bad if you already have a custom loop, I think I'd not consider it if I needed to spend loads on more cooling.


You're so right about the high end GPU, I got in to gaming when the HD5870 was the fastest in the world, it cost me £330 I think. 10 years later and the 2080ti cost £1000 more!



The wattage isn't too bad when you look at it from a GPU perspective, I had a MSI 2080ti gaming x trio and flashed it with a 400w bios. The cooler is big but it more than handled 100% load which in games is typical, for a 300w CPU though, 100% usage is very rare unless benchmarking or rendering so it will only spike to those kind of temps in real life usage. All the media outlets seem to want to over dramatise these things lol.
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Old 05-22-2020, 09:26 PM   #13
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If I had to buy right this instant I'd probably do 9700K or 9600k and overclock the bejeezus out of it. It's older tech but single thread performance...


https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html


I waffle to AMD occasionally but not sure it'll tolerate the same level of overclocks as Intel 9th. If I was buying for workstation loads and not games I'd go AMD all the way without question.

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Old 05-22-2020, 09:36 PM   #14
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Sorry for the high horse rant but a 4790k at 4GHz is NOT the same as a 10900k at 4GHz
You are correct. Here's an apples to apples comparison at the same clock speed (2.8 Ghz), Cinebench R15, one thread.



https://www.sweclockers.com/test/296...e-s/21#content

Sorry about the swedish, but I think the chart is pretty universal.
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Old 05-22-2020, 10:51 PM   #15
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cinebench is not a game.

DCS benefits more with High performance single core performance of intel processors, intel ring bus, low latency and High clocks are the secret.
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Old 05-22-2020, 10:53 PM   #16
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Engineer Travis Downs reports on his blog that Intel's latest generation "Ice Lake" CPUs have improved cache handling.

Ice Lake Store Elimination | Performance Matters
https://travisdowns.github.io/blog/2...-zero-opt.html

Hardware Store Elimination | Performance Matters
https://travisdowns.github.io/blog/2...ardware-survey
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Old 05-22-2020, 11:24 PM   #17
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Not a good time to upgrade, the i10 CPUs are a bit of a desperate stopgap from Intel and the last gasp of 14nm(hopefully). They have crazy power demands that bring issues with thermals. Ryzen is a much more power/thermal efficient CPU and brings PCIe 4.0 to the party. I currently use a i7 4790k @ 4.7ghz, 23gb ram, paired with a 2080. Personally I`m waiting for Zen 4 AM5 socket and DDR 5, plus the likely next gen SSDs, which will have crazy speeds. Likely another 18 months. DCS is just a CPU bottleneck at present, hopefully by the time I`m ready to upgrade from my 2014 system it will actually be worth it. But it has served me very well to date for VR with the Reverb, and hopefully a little longer

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Old 05-23-2020, 12:14 AM   #18
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I'm interested also to see some dcs benchmarks for the 10900k. Running currently a 4790k /1070 combination in 4k.cpu usage is about 50%, gpu at 95% so it seems to me (if i'm talking bs correct me) that the gpu is the bottleneck. I" m wondering if i would benefit in that resolution from anew cpu. Gpu upgrade is planned
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Old 05-23-2020, 05:17 AM   #19
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cinebench is not a game.

DCS benefits more with High performance single core performance of intel processors, intel ring bus, low latency and High clocks are the secret.

Never said it is. And that wasn’t the statement I replied to. I was trying to shed some light on how the 4790K compares to the 10900K apples to apples, though DCS specific benchmark comparisons are hard to find.
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:35 AM   #20
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That AMD Ryzen 3000 IPC is better than Intel's is no secret, many tests show exactly that.

They lack behind with a few hundred MHz, so Intel barely manages to win that "overall" fps game,
but hearing that XT versions with more MHz are about to be released I am not too sure how long Intel can hold that very last crown, it seems AMD's All-Over-Win comes sooner than expected with 4000 series 2nd-Gen 7nm. I am really looking forward to 3600XT and what it can deliver.
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