javelina1 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 installed 388.31, (after cleaning out the 388.13). Via VR in SP, flew the 109 in DCS 2.1. Then some flights with the Mi-8, MiG-15, and MiG-21 in DCS 1.5.7. No issues, no stutters... but these were just quick and dirty cold starts and take offs. Will perform some deeper tests, plus MP tomorrow... Not enough time today. Of course, YMMV. (I'm using Win8.1). MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayos Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 installed 388.31, (after cleaning out the 388.13). Via VR in SP, flew the 109 in DCS 2.1. Then some flights with the Mi-8, MiG-15, and MiG-21 in DCS 1.5.7. No issues, no stutters... but these were just quick and dirty cold starts and take offs. Will perform some deeper tests, plus MP tomorrow... Not enough time today. Of course, YMMV. (I'm using Win8.1). I think it's time you upgraded to Windows 10 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 At least secure your 10 lic, even if you revert back to 7 but I would not let this chance pass unused to still get a free 10 till Dec. 31st 2017. Install/Upgrade 10 from within 7, reboot to 10, bind to Hotmail Account, revert back to 7, DONE ! Less than 2h with a modern SSD based PC...and throws off a nice 10 license for later ( free ) use. just my 2 cents to 10's last chance Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knock-Knock Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 @BitMaster How does that work exactly, updating from 7 to 10. I guess the update itself is self explaining, downloading some install file, and voila, its doing its thing. But how clean will that install be. Will you have to reinstall all your software, or is that handled in the update? Reason for the clean question is, that this is a.. dunno, probably some 3 year old install I have running here, and Ive had a lot of software come and go. Probably not the cleanest of installs anymore, despite doing a clean up a few months back. What about future re-installs. What do you do there? Can you throw the 10 update on a stick, so that I wont have to install 7, then 10 in the future? - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) It is NO clean install. In order to get the free 10 you have to upgrade from within 7 by accessing the MS download page and click the "Upgrade" button.That will "UPGRADE" your 7 to 10. Most times it is a quick and clean thing, 30-60min, excl. download. Once it has installed MS "automatically" registers your PC with your 10 lic. If you ever need to reinstall, just plug in 10 USB stick, wipe the drives and install a fresh blank copy of 10, NO KEY NEEDED as MS knows your hardware !!! Now comes the tricky part most never heard about: Granted you have a RETAIL copy of 7, NOT bundled from Dell, HP, Sony etc.., it allows you to use this LIC on ANY PC you like, but only one at a time. Now this scenario: YOu change your motherboard, or GPU and 10 refuses to activate again. It will allow you to use the Troubleshooter Wizard which itself will ask you IF you have changed Hardware recently. If you then say YES, that Wizard will take you to your MS account where you can reuse or re-apply any of your 10 licenses to another machine, aka withdraw from one PC and give to another. IF you DO NOT HAVE a MS account with the 10 lic attached to it you will have no way to further use that copy of 10, aka license. = screwed !!! All of my 7's are 10 now, all are in my account and I can use them on any machine I want. Easy to do, 30min, Google it if you need further info, i.e. how to tie 10 to Hotmail etc.. ;) Edited November 16, 2017 by BitMaster Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knock-Knock Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Excellent, thank you BitMaster :thumbup: Edit: He, forum wont allow me to give you rep. It claims I have to spread it around, before giving it to you again :D - Jack of many DCS modules, master of none. - Personal wishlist: F-15A, F-4S Phantom II, JAS 39A Gripen, SAAB 35 Draken, F-104 Starfighter, Panavia Tornado IDS. | Windows 11 | i5-12400 | 64Gb DDR4 | RTX 3080 | 2x M.2 | 27" 1440p | Rift CV1 | Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS | MFG Crosswind pedals | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Haha, no problem ! If we ever meet, get me a beer :drunk: Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Yes mate, nice tip that. Also the new.31 drivers are poles apart from the .13 version. Nvidia screwed up hence less than a month before a new RC :) i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I think it's time you upgraded to Windows 10 Nope... I'll do so when I build my new rig to support the next VR in 2018/2019.... right now, Win8.1 working just fine.... :thumbup: MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscstaylor Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I don't know what happened but I installed latest drivers for nvidia last night and now my 1.5.4 version wont start. My 1.5.7 and 2.1 do but they have long black screen pauses then loads to main screen..anyone else having this issue. Also which drivers version work really well with DCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I don't know what happened but I installed latest drivers for nvidia last night and now my 1.5.4 version wont start. My 1.5.7 and 2.1 do but they have long black screen pauses then loads to main screen..anyone else having this issue. Also which drivers version work really well with DCS. I just flew 1.5.7 and 2.1, (MiG-15 and ME-109) just fine, with 388.31. I can't speak to 1.5.4. don't have it, so can't help. did you clean out the old driver with the DDU cleaner, before installing the newest nVidia driver? MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscstaylor Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Doing that now, its just weird cause it worked great until I installed new drivers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscstaylor Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) OK still the same thing the games gets past the DCS logo screen and then stays black...I can't figure it out . Can I reinstall the version 1.5.4 without deleting my mods Edited November 17, 2017 by uscstaylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 OK still the same thing the games gets past the DCS logo screen and then stays black...I can't figure it out . Can I reinstall the version 1.5.4 without deleting my mods This is the reason why I backup my system with acronis before playing driver roulette METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Acronis Universal Suite saved my life a few times... Love it Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I dont use DDU unless there is a real & persistent problem with the current NV drv installed. This is how I update, usually, when all is fine: Download, execute, choose manual, uncheck 3D-Stereo driver parts, install over current one, done. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscstaylor Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 OK Well I got it to start but had used the updater utility, tried to set the version I wanted which was 1.5.4 but the utility installed the current version 1.5.7. So now Im trying to back peddle to 1.5.4. Is there a downloadable version of 1.5.4.57288 that I could get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 OK Well I got it to start but had used the updater utility, tried to set the version I wanted which was 1.5.4 but the utility installed the current version 1.5.7. So now Im trying to back peddle to 1.5.4. Is there a downloadable version of 1.5.4.57288 that I could get. YOu have to use the command line tool to revert back to another version. Unfortunately you cannot download DCS as it used to be, you have to use the online installer. Maybe some moderator can paste the syntax in here that you need to choose a specific version. I have never used it and thus have no idea what to type, but I know that is how it works ;) Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 YOu have to use the command line tool to revert back to another version. Unfortunately you cannot download DCS as it used to be, you have to use the online installer. Maybe some moderator can paste the syntax in here that you need to choose a specific version. I have never used it and thus have no idea what to type, but I know that is how it works ;) Indeed, I think Skate has some info about it. MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redeye Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Here is the thread on how to roll back to different versions of DCS. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=114030 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscstaylor Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I did it thanks but the Black screen after the DCS logo screen still persists. I hope that I can get this solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 I did it thanks but the Black screen after the DCS logo screen still persists. I hope that I can get this solved. yeah, that new black screen, seems to be there since 10's Fall update. Easy fix, hit CTRL-ALT-TAB, choose TaskManager or such and DCS will show up again, you may leave TM open or close it again. For me it looks like the "get Focus" thing is broken for DCS in Fall's update. Dirt4 runs ok, so does WoWarships, only other games I play these days. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy_99 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Im glad fits not just me, Getting this myself except alt ctrl delete dont work, I just unplug the monitor and re connect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Rico Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 yeah, that new black screen, seems to be there since 10's Fall update. Easy fix, hit CTRL-ALT-TAB, choose TaskManager or such and DCS will show up again, you may leave TM open or close it again. For me it looks like the "get Focus" thing is broken for DCS in Fall's update. Dirt4 runs ok, so does WoWarships, only other games I play these days. Ah, so this is a feature of the latest version of windows 10 METAR weather for DCS World missions Guide to help out new DCS MOOSE Users -> HERE Havoc Company Dedicated server info Connect IP: 94.23.215.203 SRS enabled - freqs - Main = 243, A2A = 244, A2G = 245 Please contact me HERE if you have any server feedback or METAR issues/requests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Im glad fits not just me, Getting this myself except alt ctrl delete dont work, I just unplug the monitor and re connect it. Ahh, OK ! CTRL-TAB wouldnt work on my end, then I tried CTRL-ALT-DEL. It doesnt happen every time, like half the time I end up with a black screen. Worse is that you cannot ALT-TAB back to desktop, that is a pain now. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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