Link to product manual?

Hi, I just got the Sabre from E-shop, and would like to download the Belsimtek manual (if there is one) to my ipad. Is there a direct view link? Thanks

Not the GUI/ Quickstart. The real heavy manual if you please.

There isn't one I'm afraid.

the manual is not available since the beginning

I learnt the checklist and take off from youtube.

In the module file,there is inly quick start pdf,however it's enough to fly it.

Or you can copy the subtitle of the video from youtube,take off,taxi,laning and weapon system,there have everything you need.

Well, if You're really into "heavy manuals" for F-86F, then real one in .pdf might be interesting for You:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2167231&postcount=9

If BST ever releases their manual, it will probably will be based on this document anyway.

Alas there is no manual yet but there is a quickstart guide in your doc folder of the aircraft at least.

\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Mods\aircraft\F-86\Doc

Otherwise go with youtube tutorials or some of the other nice manuals which were posted here.

There isn't one I'm afraid.

What ? Does not a detailed plane like the F86 Sabre have a manual ? How then are we supposed to learn to fly and fight with it ?

That's the disadvantage of buying a beta version. You get early access, but you'll have to wait for less important stuff like campaigns, manuals and training mission.

That's the disadvantage of buying a beta version. You get early access, but you'll have to wait for less important stuff like campaigns, manuals and training mission.

So those things are coming later ?

So those things are coming later ?

Yes.

You can get a decent manual if you search after the Milviz FSX F86 manual.

While it is an addon from another company on another game, most of the thing stay valid.

 

It is still a shame that you have to pick a competition manual to use the F86. :music_whistling:

So you think that they should have a completed manual for a BETA module?

How exactly do you complete a manual for a piece of software that is not completed?

:doh:

So you think that they should have a completed manual for a BETA module?

 

How exactly do you complete a manual for a piece of software that is not completed?

:doh:

"Beta" means "feature complete" - or at least that should be the meaning. But anyhow, the available features could be documented in a manual, leaving the missing ones out at first. Unfinished features (if really is not yet clear how they will look like in detail) could at least be tagged as "WIP".

A finished, "complete" manual is not even necessary, imho. But after a "decent" time of being Beta, a WIP version should be made availeble. And this worked so far for a lot of modules (i.e. all ED modules) we have now - so it IS possible.

"Beta" means "feature complete" - or at least that should be the meaning. But anyhow, the available features could be documented in a manual, leaving the missing ones out at first. Unfinished features (if really is not yet clear how they will look like in detail) could at least be tagged as "WIP".

 

A finished, "complete" manual is not even necessary, imho. But after a "decent" time of being Beta, a WIP version should be made availeble. And this worked so far for a lot of modules (i.e. all ED modules) we have now - so it IS possible.

Ever work on a project like this? So you make a change.. (And then take time to update the manual.. Then upload the manual)

Then you make a change.. (And then update the manual.. And then upload the manual..)

Then you make a change......

Nope sorry, it makes zero sense to constantly update a document when the entire project is still in limbo..

By the time you are done you will have spent an inordinate amount of time updating documentation that isn't useful due to your own changes.. Not to mention the fact that then you have multiple versions of the same manual and everybody would squawk about that too..

That is why the manual is the LAST thing completed and why it can't be completed during the Beta process..

You don't have to adjust a manual every time you fix a bug and perhaps not even if you just complete a feature. At least when something is released as beta, for the majority of the features it should be already known how they (should) function and how they will look like. How else could they be programmed otherwise?

Yes, actually completing the manual before the module is finished - that is probably not viable, but then again, that is also not what I would expect to happen.

Alright I will give you that one..

SOME KIND of manual should be provided during BETA... Otherwise you can't properly test anything..

:joystick:

Actually, a manual should be able to be nearly complete when the product is still in beta. They are simulating an aircraft which already has a manual outlining how everything is supposed work. Most of the manual was 'written' before the project ever started and the software is supposed to simulate what is described in the manual.

If this were a make-believe aircraft then the situation regarding documentation would be a bit different.

I agree with cichlid. Remember when P-51 was released? We had a good manual since beta 1. The reason I ask is that I like to read the historical, conception, design, notables, which is something that enriches the experience to me. Thanks for the old manuals but I'll wait for the official BST one and possibly rely on youtube. Thanks everbody!

DCS F-86 Quickstart Guide

http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=101559&d=1406229895

Just get the real F-86F manual in the meantime. It works.

Ok BETA - no manual - bummer!

I really hope there WILL be a manual in the future.

At least there should be a complete keypad list somwhere - and I don't mean the key definitions in the quickstart guide.

Is there a keypad list somewhere?

At least there should be a complete keypad list somwhere - and I don't mean the key definitions in the quickstart guide.

 

Is there a keypad list somewhere?

I'm curious, do you really need one now we can access the keybindings in-game?

+1 on using the real manual, if it doesn't work from the manual its probably not modeled.

Yes.

Link ? I have actually seen nothing else promised . I think we are assuming there will be a GA version ..... like with Mi-8

Found this thread when I was looking for the manual.

I really don't think we have anything to worry about. The Belsimtek manuals for all the other modules have been fantastic, better than EDs in some ways.

It will come in good time.

So still no manual right? I think Belsimtek is starting to not really care about that aspect of their products..too bad..