crab Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 He has a few pics up now, best view of the throttle I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I wonder if he flies the a10 and finds the throttle equivalent to the number of hats and three position switches / sliders. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffonBR Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I think that the features that we'll miss most is the lack of slew and other 4 way hat. I hope that the mechanisms and the sensors works in a good line, because the Warthog throttle lack in terms of synchronism between the levers, sometimes one gives 1 or 2% of difference on the RPM. Intel 8700K@4.7ghz(all cores) / 32Gb DDR4 /WD Black SN750 Heatsink 500gb (DCS Only) / MSI GeForce RTX 2070 GAMING Z 8G / Windows 10 PRO / VPC WarBRD Base + Warthog Stick + Foxx Mount / Thrustmaster TPR pedals / Thustmaster MFD / Thrustmaster Warthog throttle + Monstertech chair mount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) I've noticed the travel sensitivity on the warthog throttle too. There's times when one throttle gives a little less or more than the other. I've had no problems with my slew on mine although I know many people hate it. Hopefully virpil will make some changes to the t50 that has the slew. Edited July 20, 2018 by sze5003 Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffonBR Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I've noticed the travel sensitivity on the warthog throttle too. There's tomes when one throttle gives a little less or more than the other. I've had no problems with my slew on mine although I know many people hate it. Hopefully virpil will make some changes to the t50 that has the slew. Funny that I had my Warthog throttle since 2014 and just notice the problem only with the F-18 when I was looking on the IFEI :lol: Intel 8700K@4.7ghz(all cores) / 32Gb DDR4 /WD Black SN750 Heatsink 500gb (DCS Only) / MSI GeForce RTX 2070 GAMING Z 8G / Windows 10 PRO / VPC WarBRD Base + Warthog Stick + Foxx Mount / Thrustmaster TPR pedals / Thustmaster MFD / Thrustmaster Warthog throttle + Monstertech chair mount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Funny that I had my Warthog throttle since 2014 and just notice the problem only with the F-18 when I was looking on the IFEI That's exactly how I noticed too. But it could also be the way the software registers the guage rpm's. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffonBR Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 That's exactly how I noticed too. But it could also be the way the software registers the guage rpm's. I don't think so man, because I tested with the A-20 on IL-2 BoS and other prop planes and you can notice the problem too, try it the F2 vision on DCS and pay attetion to your RPM on that info bar. Also using the DIView you can notice a great difference between the two throttles. Intel 8700K@4.7ghz(all cores) / 32Gb DDR4 /WD Black SN750 Heatsink 500gb (DCS Only) / MSI GeForce RTX 2070 GAMING Z 8G / Windows 10 PRO / VPC WarBRD Base + Warthog Stick + Foxx Mount / Thrustmaster TPR pedals / Thustmaster MFD / Thrustmaster Warthog throttle + Monstertech chair mount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 In one version of MMJoy2 firmware (for ATmega32u4) MegaMOZG (Virpil firmware developer) implement a system like in X-55 throttle - in what when throttle grips are locked together both axes are mixed and the same response send for each engine, so no difference between engines acceleration. Maybe he use the same in VPC Throttle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSally Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 HOW ABOUT WE GET AN UPDATE PLEASE???? Well over $1500 invested and all I hear is crickets!! Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, Trackir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Maybe you shouldn't spend $1,500 on something that doesn't exist yet? Wait, Chris Roberts called he has some jpgs for you ))) And I know a televangelist selling prosperity seeds =D Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdee Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Maybe you shouldn't spend $1,500 on something that doesn't exist yet? Wait, Chris Roberts called he has some jpgs for you ))) And I know a televangelist selling prosperity seeds =D You've got a good point here :megalol: p.s I pre-ordered, but money is not a factor at all in my case - they offer no questions asked refunds too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSally Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) Maybe you shouldn't spend $1,500 on something that doesn't exist yet? Wait, Chris Roberts called he has some jpgs for you ))) And I know a televangelist selling prosperity seeds =D They do exist, just annoyed at the lack of communication! Oh and btw don't give up your day job!! Edited July 24, 2018 by MustangSally Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, Trackir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdee Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) They do exist, just annoyed at the lack of communication! No, they don't have a product. If they would they would ship it. They've snt a couple of samples to youtubers to generate more pre-orders (this is going to backfire, badly, though) Seriously, what sort of communication do you expect besides tracking number/shipping confirmation? Nothing else is relevant or needed at this point. Do you want to read more excuses and have another 2 months delay confirmed? Because this is what is going to happen if there is any communication besides an email in your inbox from a courier. Edited July 24, 2018 by mdee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSally Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 I give up! Ryzen 9 7950X3D - MSI MAG X670E TomaHawk MB, ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 AIO 64gig Corsair DDR5@6000, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AORUS Winwing Super Taurus, Orion2, TO / Combat panels, Collective with Topgun MIP Winwing Skywalker pedals, NLR Boeing Mil Edition Simpit, Trackir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mars Exulte Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 @mdee True words. The what's and wherefores don't really matter much at this point. I'm waiting, too, first on VKB, now on Virpil and Slaw. Such is the way of the pre-order. If you order something that is not in stock and ready for shipping RIGHT THEN this is the risk you take. Whether the delay is due to the factory manager having a baby, a tsunami, or whatever, end result is the same. Tracking number or bust :p Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranma13 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Do you want to read more excuses and have another 2 months delay confirmed? Because this is what is going to happen if there is any communication besides an email in your inbox from a courier. The Warthog throttle was released in 2010. Some of us have been waiting years for a better throttle to come along. If you can't wait another few weeks, either get a refund and pick up another throttle, or e-mail Virpil directly and get a status update from them. Coming on the forums and complaining about it is like complaining to us that your Amazon order didn't arrive on time and expecting us to do something about it. Nobody likes delays, but they're a reality of life. Virpil wants to release the throttle just as much as we want to receive them, but they're unable to meet the release timeline and thus need extra time to resolve the hold-up. Acting like an entitled brat isn't going to speed anything up. Edited July 25, 2018 by Ranma13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crab Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 lol, they're not answering emails. Also my bet is the largest chunk of their business by a good margin comes from people who browse this forum and whats more they know it and monitor regularly; I know I would. A more likely answer is that business as usual over there means you don't answer when you have nothing on the shelf and so they're not. I would also say that people who have handed over cold cash in exchange for promised goods ARE in fact entitled to an explanation when those goods have not shipped as promised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranma13 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 There is an explanation: it's been delayed. If you think that's unacceptable, then get a refund and purchase another throttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdee Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) The Warthog throttle was released in 2010. Some of us have been waiting years for a better throttle to come along. If you can't wait another few weeks, either get a refund and pick up another throttle, or e-mail Virpil directly and get a status update from them. Coming on the forums and complaining about it is like complaining to us that your Amazon order didn't arrive on time and expecting us to do something about it. Nobody likes delays, but they're a reality of life. Virpil wants to release the throttle just as much as we want to receive them, but they're unable to meet the release timeline and thus need extra time to resolve the hold-up. Acting like an entitled brat isn't going to speed anything up. Oh a white knight, hello. My Amazon orders always arrive on time, if they don't I get my money back, thanks for your concern tho. Even if they wouldn't I'd not expect you to do anything about it, based on how submissive you are sounding. Thanks again for chipping in and raising awareness of this screw up - this is the reason I post about it. Edited July 25, 2018 by mdee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranma13 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GriffonBR Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Well, I asked Ralfidude on Twitter to help us about this matter and this is what I got. Virtually the same thing over and over again. :music_whistling: Intel 8700K@4.7ghz(all cores) / 32Gb DDR4 /WD Black SN750 Heatsink 500gb (DCS Only) / MSI GeForce RTX 2070 GAMING Z 8G / Windows 10 PRO / VPC WarBRD Base + Warthog Stick + Foxx Mount / Thrustmaster TPR pedals / Thustmaster MFD / Thrustmaster Warthog throttle + Monstertech chair mount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sze5003 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) Standard two weeks == soon reply we are all used to. Well at least it's something to hope for next week and I just got in from vacation so this week is almost over! Question for me is do I have them change my address on my order or will I get my preorder before November you think? Edited July 25, 2018 by sze5003 Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdee Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Thanks for the effort GriffonBR. Yeah, same old. We will see next week. I've placed my order the hour they have opened orders, I'll report back as soon as anything moves. Not keeping my hopes up tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssnake51 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 There is an explanation: it's been delayed. If you think that's unacceptable, then get a refund and purchase another throttle. This. And what I don't get is why bitch to the manufacturer of a high quality item to hurry up with production? I'd prefer the good folks at Virpil to take their time and put out a good product rather than rushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len62 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 This. And what I don't get is why bitch to the manufacturer of a high quality item to hurry up with production? I'd prefer the good folks at Virpil to take their time and put out a good product rather than rushing it. I agree with you. However, we live in a world where people want it now, or last week, rather than later. I'm willing to wait, if anyone isn't they can ask for a refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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