iantron Posted March 4, 2015 Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Sooooo 170 is Vy. That means you should be able to fly anywhere between Vx (100) and Vy and get a better climb angle than at Vy. Since the mission is based on reaching an altitude within a certain distance (not time) the easiest way to achieve that altitude should be to fly Vx, though it should take you longer to get there. If you're having problems with engine cooling at the lower speed, I would guess that there's some room to cut back the throttle and still achieve the altitude soon enough. If anything, err on the slow side of Vy. Also keep in mind that your VSI measures climb rate not climb angle, and climb angle is what's important for this mission. On the other hand, from all the discussion above, it seems like you're having some other problem with engine management. Make sure you're following a good set of checklists and that you trust what the aircraft was designed to do (turbo should jump up around 20k asl). I like these checklists cause they have good quick reference for aircraft performance info (v-speeds, engine settings): http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3633825/2GvSAP_Flea_s_P_51D_checklists Basic reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_of_climb Edited March 4, 2015 by iantron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barao Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Sooooo 170 is Vy. That means you should be able to fly anywhere between Vx (100) and Vy and get a better climb angle than at Vy. Since the mission is based on reaching an altitude within a certain distance (not time) the easiest way to achieve that altitude should be to fly Vx, though it should take you longer to get there. If you're having problems with engine cooling at the lower speed, I would guess that there's some room to cut back the throttle and still achieve the altitude soon enough. If anything, err on the slow side of Vy. Also keep in mind that your VSI measures climb rate not climb angle, and climb angle is what's important for this mission. On the other hand, from all the discussion above, it seems like you're having some other problem with engine management. Make sure you're following a good set of checklists and that you trust what the aircraft was designed to do (turbo should jump up around 20k asl). I like these checklists cause they have good quick reference for aircraft performance info (v-speeds, engine settings): http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3633825/2GvSAP_Flea_s_P_51D_checklists Basic reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rate_of_climb Perfect Checklist. Nothing more to say about this, once it's PERFECT. Thanks :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::clap_2::clap_2: Dell U2715H 27" IPS 2560x1440 / 60 Hz; Ryzen 7 7700x; 32gb DDR5 6400; B650M Aorus Pro; Water Cooler Arctic liquid freezer II 280 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Down Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I am also having issues reaching the 20K gate Same values as captain Orso (2.7K rpm and 45-55 Hg. I am fine up to the 10K gate, I then set trim to try to maintain a rate of climb between 0.5 and 1 vsi, again ok for another 4K, but even with the Supercharger, beyond 16K I am finding it almost impossible to achieve a positive rate of climb without stalling out. Driving me crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD_Fenrir Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Mixture Control. Ensure you are in Auto not Emergency Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 if you have problem with rate of climb hit 67" 3000 rpm oil and coolant AUTO System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) I am also having issues reaching the 20K gate Same values as captain Orso (2.7K rpm and 45-55 Hg. I am fine up to the 10K gate, I then set trim to try to maintain a rate of climb between 0.5 and 1 vsi, again ok for another 4K, but even with the Supercharger, beyond 16K I am finding it almost impossible to achieve a positive rate of climb without stalling out. Driving me crazy. Are you sure that you are not flying with flaps or gear deployed, are you running both magnetos not single for example, just make cockpit sweep check everything, check ram air handle position should be all way forward. Dont go slower then 150mph Btw supercharger is working all the time in p-51 from engine start to engine shut off P-51 can easy stay around 2000ft/min at 46"2700 and when you are rocking 67'3000 you can be at 3500ft/min. in climb monitor your MP it will drop pass 8k ft if you climb at speeds below 180mph. P-51 in DCS can climb to 43k ft but you need to climb at high speed to get help from ram air Edited November 14, 2019 by grafspee System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Down Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Thanks to Tucano_uy, I read a number of posts before adding my own post describing my similar issue. When I was trying to run it again, after posting, I checked, and low and behold, my mixture was set incorrectly. I ran the mission with it then set to "Run"and got through 20K and 25 and 30K without any problems. However I was so pleased, I got turned about in the cloud and flew into a mountain - Some days are diamonds, some days are stones....:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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glcollins Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Hey guys thanks for the great input, as I am also having issues and will try all suggestions. Anyway, someone has a copy of the checklist referred to in #51&52? The link has expired. Thanks, Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantron Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) Uh not sure about the link anymore. Might have a local copy though. I'll check later. Edited May 19, 2020 by iantron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantron Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Unfortunately that is not the same checklist. I have a laminated copy still. It is the 2GvSAP DCS: P51D Pocket Check List Rev1.0A from 13 July 2012. I'm not having much luck finding it from that, but maybe someone from 2GvSAP (?) is around...? I'll scan if we can't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) This check list covers all important things to set up plane properly. include before start up check list which most ppl often missing. Any way, like it P-51 changed at all in pass 70 years :P 2012 i think is up to date enough. Edited May 20, 2020 by grafspee System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatoli-Kagari9 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 It's a "C" model in this video, but worth following the flow... Flight Simulation is the Virtual Materialization of a Dream... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) It's a "C" model in this video, but worth following the flow... Pls, don't use modern modified p-51 as reference.They differ in couple of things from war time planes.The best way is to just look at p-51 manual from wartime or 50s. For example, counting blades is not a thing in war time p-51,it can start from very beginning of cranking. Thermostatic actuators for oil and coolant is set for lower temp then back in ww2 Edited May 20, 2020 by grafspee System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoirtel Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I just circled around till I had enough altitude. There's no timer. That's the way I did it, just take it gently and it gets there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteamyIceChest Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I flew for a long time with the mixture on full rich (several weeks) before I found out it was the incorrect setting. If you are having problems with power at altitude, and quick fuel use, that is 99% chance your problem. Even if you think you know, I’d encourage you to check and ensure you are doing it correctly if you are having these problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iantron Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 @glcollins here's the scanned version...https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3309867/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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