Landing in the Bf 109K-4

Hmmm, that's something I only do in emergency :) but you're probably right...

 

But, is the DCS present physics for "fields" landing usable ?

Yeah I think that it is okay...but field landings should be as they are in real life, and I think DCS does a good job of that. Remember that in real life most field landings are done for emergency reasons, and so my goal is too just survive the landing, so as to not take a death in game play. I have landed with no damage at all, turned around and taken off again...but... I also have had some terrible results, but after all, that is the same as that found in day to day RL emergency field landings :).....I'm just practicing how to stay alive for the eventual Normandy campaign release :P....I think a dedicated video blooper thread of K4 field landings, would be cool to have here

Most of my field landings were also gear up and oddly enough I have a 100% success rate. By "success" I mean "not dying", since with the gear up you can't avoid damaging the aircraft. I can't say the same about my regular landings, where I managed to kill myself a few times ;).

Most of my field landings were also gear up and oddly enough I have a 100% success rate. By "success" I mean "not dying", since with the gear up you can't avoid damaging the aircraft. I can't say the same about my regular landings, where I managed to kill myself a few times ;).

Mine are always gear down, just in case the possibility of a after landing takeoff attempt can be made :music_whistling:

actualy i think it's quite simple, if you find your own "balance". granted, you have to focus much more than on a runway, but that goes without saying ;)

i focused on landing in the greens a few days ago, and as pictures tell more then i could tell, you might watch the attached track file.

(takeoff from the green was to early, but could be compensated ;) )

regards,

RR

109_field_landing_takeoff.trk

Am I the only one who is finding it pretty fun to land and takeoff? I've been doing practice for the whole day since I just bought this and haven't suffered more than a bent prop. Stuck my first landing too! maybe there is some advantage to having rudder in a twist grip haha.

Scratch that, attempted to land in a field.

Scratch that, attempted to land in a field.

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post a in cocpit track/or video here maybe I can give you a few pointers :D

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=144545

I just made a vid of my own technique for landing the 109, might not be correct, but it works for me.

Link to vid is here: https://youtu.be/5pGwCyaqOxc

I just made a vid of my own technique for landing the 109, might not be correct, but it works for me.

 

Link to vid is here: https://youtu.be/5pGwCyaqOxc

this is pretty much how i do it too, full flaps and +3 trim, though maybe 1 out of four or five times i find myself veering of the runway for some reason :/ even with tail wheel locked

this is pretty much how i do it too, full flaps and +3 trim, though maybe 1 out of four or five times i find myself veering of the runway for some reason :/ even with tail wheel locked

Just my two cents: Speed should be as low as possbile as well as minimizing vertical speed. Pull the stick back to push the tail to the ground. This reduces the tendency to bank - though if you are too fast, you will be catapulted back into the air. In the end it is just training, plain and simple, you will solve this in no time!

Just my two cents: Speed should be as low as possbile as well as minimizing vertical speed. Pull the stick back to push the tail to the ground. This reduces the tendency to bank - though if you are too fast, you will be catapulted back into the air. In the end it is just training, plain and simple, you will solve this in no time!

what he said. some more stick time, and it'll come too.

I Prefer to land with half a wing in the middle of a Field ;)

Follow these instructions and you will have a perfect landing every time.

My approach, alignment with the runway and VVI were always perfect. My issue was always skidding to a stop and the wing tilting and hitting the pavement.

I was never able to land without the wing hitting the pavement after touchdown as it drifted uncontrollably.

It took a lot of practice to discover exactly what to do to keep the wings from hitting the pavement.

• lock tail wheel

• drop flaps and gear under 300kph

• slow approach around 200kph

• touchdown at 170kmh

• vertical Velocity Indicator (VVI) must be 2.5 - 0

• use brakes and rudder aggressively to control direction immediately after touchdown

Upon touchdown the BF-109 tends to start drifting to the left and you must correct it immediately with both opposite rudder and braking (light tapping).

I find that if you only use the brakes or only rudder to correct the direction after touch down it will drift uncontrollably to one side and the wing will tilt and hit the pavement.

You must use both the brakes and rudder simultaneously together to correct the direction down the runway.

And, further to fastfreddie1's suggestions, make sure you land 3-point!

Full back on the stick to make sure the tail wheel controls directional stability is the way to go. Get it right, and there is no tendency for the plane to veer off in either direction.

Obviously, to achieve that as soon as you touch down requires the aircraft to be slow enough. The way to achieve that is to just get the plane flying just above the runway, and progressively flare until you have the stick fully aft, and it'll settle nice and gently and roll straight ahead.

Careful control of airspeed and a good 3 point touchdown is the key.

I just made a vid of my own technique for landing the 109, might not be correct, but it works for me.

 

Link to vid is here: https://youtu.be/5pGwCyaqOxc

Good lord of us... thanks to you I was able to land the Kurfurst safely for the first time! I got the dora long time ago and I've land the thing safely the first time but this one was still a pain in the ... :pilotfly: :thumbup:

Binding trim on the joystick's keys was a milestone for me in terms of landing. I think that was the idea in BF 109. Not putting trim wheel on some static, positive position but rotating it according to speed, attitude and range from runway. While Im landing I dont even see how the trim is set. Trim helps a lot to maintain in the air in low speed. After final touchdown, I pull stick and throttle down then gently tapping airbrakes to stay straight.

my landing protocol is quite easy :

1/ Gear In

2/ Engine Off

3/ Land.

4/ Have tech repairing the propeller and put it back on wheel.

Did a quick video about my vision of landing. What you think guys?

 

Looks great!

Only thing I wouldn't do your way is the shallow path - this is due to being a glider pilot and preferring to arrive high at the final... Also give you some more alternatives in case of engine failure, and in the 109 gives you better visibility ahead, before starting the flare...

Manual also says to unlock tail wheel before landing, how that can be?

I think the manual means after landing and braking and before taxiing.

You only unlock the tailwheel to have manoeuvrability during taxi.

Otherwise you create an extra challenge for yourself. ;)

My pedals has no toe brakes, so I map left and right brakes on buttons in throttle and stick.

http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=136877&stc=1&d=1458480070

OT - I use the same pedals and with T-Link software "differential brakes" have good brake control (Bf 109, Fw 190, P-51).

Brake with joystick button - I use joy trigger for brake (for fire guns set trigger - +modifier 'switches') and set right/left brake with pedal movement.

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Bumping the guy's posts #122 and #127

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2258921#post2258921

Awesome idea and execution. Really skillful bloke! :thumbup:

See for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE66KGZIs2EpTbBGMfQ2-fQ/videos?sort=dd&shelf_id=0&view=0