Johnny Dioxin Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I did have some heart-stopping moments along the way, but I have just swapped a dodgy motherboard for a "new" one (it's new, but it's 6 year old tech - LGA 1150/Haswell) and it has gone extremely well. Windows 10 is, so I read, the only version where it's officially possible to renew the motherboard and not have to reinstall windows - and this has proved to be the case. Things didn't go completely as planned - I had cloned my 120GB Windows SSD onto a new 480GB SSD, but it refused to work. When I cloned my old SATA 3 mechanical HDD to the 120GB SSD it went perfectly, so I don't know what happened this time around. I also bought a wrong M2 SSD to PCIe card, so I can't use a lot of my software until the correct one comes. Minor points, though. When first booting on the new motherboard, I got the Windows 10 loading screen and the loading circle thing just went on and on for about half an hour - so I rebooted and that time I got a message that the relevant updates and drivers were being loaded, which took a couple of minutes and voila! Sorted. Really pleased, but the big test will be when I run DCS World and VR (I can't run them until tomorrow as my saved games folder is on that drive which I ordered the wrong adapter for). I used my account info to find the low down on my activations left etc, but was a bit confused because most of the modules shown as requiring Starforce activation (i.e. with a number) I couldn't find any evidence of a protect file anywhere (such as the MiG-21) -so we'll see what happens. I'll report back on how well that goes. Short & simple = duff mobo? Don't worry about slapping a new one in. :) Kneeboard Guides Rig: Asus B650-GAMING PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; SN-1 Pedals; VR = Pico 4 over VD Wireless + Index; Point Control v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goa Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Even if its possible I would never do it, installing WIN10 take about 10 minutes + 10 minutes for gpu/chipset/audio/usb devices drviers etc CPU : Intel i7 8700k@5.0ghz cooled by Noctua NH-D15 / Motherboard:Asorck Z370 Taichi / RAM: 32GB GSkill TridentZ @3600mhz / SSD: 500GB Nvme Samsung 970 evo+1 TB Sabrent Nvme M2 / GPU:Asus Strix OC 2080TI / Monitor: LG 34KG950F Ultrawide / Trackir 5 proclip/ VIRPIL CM2 BASE + CM2 GRIP + F148 GRIP + 200M EXTENSION /VKB T-Rudder MKIV rudder /Case: Fractal Design R6 Define black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Not all of us enjoy the internet speed you do.... 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dioxin Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 As it happens, I only did this to check it was possible - yesterday I backed up all the necessaries and today I reinstalled from scratch. My Index is coming and I was contemplating doing a clean install anyway. Just have to redownload 168GB of DCS World modules. Thankfully I have fibre these days - but even at 74Meg connection it takes a few hours. Think it was a whole afternoon last time. Everything seemed to be working okay, but I wanted to clear out all traces of Oculus and related settings etc before installing the Index. Kneeboard Guides Rig: Asus B650-GAMING PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; SN-1 Pedals; VR = Pico 4 over VD Wireless + Index; Point Control v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Even if its possible I would never do it, installing WIN10 take about 10 minutes + 10 minutes for gpu/chipset/audio/usb devices drviers etc I have a gigabit service and it's more than a 10 minutes. Come on now. It's more like 30 minutes from start to finish for a fresh install, and maybe 45m-1hr for an upgrade. If you don't hit the "99%" stalling issue (easy enough to fix). But in general, from start to finish, it's about 4 hours to have a completely working DCS PC. That's counting my usual apps like Camtasia, Ultraedit, SnagIt, O365, Vectric, and ShapeOko software. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skouras Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Even if its possible I would never do it, installing WIN10 take about 10 minutes + 10 minutes for gpu/chipset/audio/usb devices drviers etc 10 minutes?:cry: man i have VDSL 100 Mbps and took me 30 minutes the updates what is your internet speed?WOW [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]W10(64bit)Asus Rog Strix Z370-F - i7 8700K - Dark Rock Pro 4 - 16 giga ram Corsair vengeance 3000 - MSI RTX 2070 Super - Asus Rog Phobeus soundcard - Z906 Surround speaker - Track ir5 - HOTAS Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goa Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I am just tallking about the win10 installation process, as to DCS download of course time depens on internet connection but you can simply copy the entire dcs folder to a backup hardisk before formattin/reinstalling windows and when installation is complete just copy/paste dcs folder to your desired drive. CPU : Intel i7 8700k@5.0ghz cooled by Noctua NH-D15 / Motherboard:Asorck Z370 Taichi / RAM: 32GB GSkill TridentZ @3600mhz / SSD: 500GB Nvme Samsung 970 evo+1 TB Sabrent Nvme M2 / GPU:Asus Strix OC 2080TI / Monitor: LG 34KG950F Ultrawide / Trackir 5 proclip/ VIRPIL CM2 BASE + CM2 GRIP + F148 GRIP + 200M EXTENSION /VKB T-Rudder MKIV rudder /Case: Fractal Design R6 Define black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dioxin Posted July 23, 2019 Author Share Posted July 23, 2019 Took around 6 hours today, to get a 165GB DCS 2.5.5 release installed. Just minus 5 of the aircraft modules, otherwise the full monty. For the first time since it was introduced, I didn't get any security warnings during the torrent. Kneeboard Guides Rig: Asus B650-GAMING PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; SN-1 Pedals; VR = Pico 4 over VD Wireless + Index; Point Control v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David OC Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Clean install of Win 10 was a good idea. No need to download DCS. You can just copy and paste as many DCS installs around your pc as you like if you have the space. I have a backup on external drives. Just copy and paste - redo links from the bin folder. Clean and repair is always good after a copy to make it "new again" and clean out the metashaders and FXO folders under the saved games folder every update. i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dioxin Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 I used to keep a back-up of 2.5, as well as those I have of 1.2.4, 1.5.6 and 1.5.8, but last time I tried a completely clean install from the newly downloaded web installer I got a really nice performance boost in VR, so I decided to do that again this time around. It's no big hassle, just leave it for the afternoon, so not really an issue. Takes a long time to copy 160+ GB as well, so might as well have it directly from the server. Kneeboard Guides Rig: Asus B650-GAMING PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; SN-1 Pedals; VR = Pico 4 over VD Wireless + Index; Point Control v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) I used to keep a back-up of 2.5, as well as those I have of 1.2.4, 1.5.6 and 1.5.8, but last time I tried a completely clean install from the newly downloaded web installer I got a really nice performance boost in VR, so I decided to do that again this time around. It's no big hassle, just leave it for the afternoon, so not really an issue. Takes a long time to copy 160+ GB as well, so might as well have it directly from the server. Your sig say "all SSD drives". How can it then be faster to download, extract and then finally install a brandnew copy of DCS. Lets say you get mediocore 300MB/sec copy/paste...that is a fraction of the above, even at 500Mbit or 1Gbit ISP connections. * the boost my come as well from a clean& repair, followed by deleting fxo & metashader folders :thumbup: Edited July 24, 2019 by BitMaster Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Dioxin Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 Well I didn't say it was quicker, did I? I said that copying takes a while anyway, and it's not an issue for me to download it - which it isn't. Oh - and all my back-ups are on an old 2TB SATA (1) mechanical HDD which I connect via USB. ;) Kneeboard Guides Rig: Asus B650-GAMING PLUS; Ryzen 7800X3D ; 64GB DDR5 5600; RTX 4080; VPC T50 CM2 HOTAS; SN-1 Pedals; VR = Pico 4 over VD Wireless + Index; Point Control v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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