xvii-Dietrich Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 At the moment, I am unable to get any GPS position with the NS-430. I have tried the L-39C (using both the 3D model and the overlay modes of the NS-430) and the C-101CC (overlay only). My procedure is this: 1. Enter the aircraft and start it to get power 2. Turn the ".C" power knob to start the NS-430 3. Press "ENT" twice to get past the start-up screens 4. At this point there is the map with "NO GPS POSITION" in large friendly letters. I have checked the manual and forums and have seen some comments saying that I need to wait for a while for it to warm up. I've done this (approx. 5 mins) but it doesn't seem to change. I have attached a sample track file. I am using DCS v2.5.4.29079 Any suggestions on what I am doing incorrectly? :helpsmilie:server-20190330-115310.trk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) Any suggestions on what I am doing incorrectly? :helpsmilie: Looks like a bug or WIP, testing in a L-39C (gun sight removed/NS430 enabled), the NS430 acquired a GPS signal once I started the engine (a requirement for FC3 aircraft or the 2D popup in the F-5, etc ). However, once a GPS signal was acquired, I could shutdown the L-39C (Throttle --> STOP, all switches off) and only needed the battery switch ON for the 3D NS430 to acquire a signal a second time. Tested DCS 2.5.4.29079 Open Beta Edited March 30, 2019 by Ramsay i9 9900K @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Is there planes of other coalitions in same airport than yours at start ? (example red planes and you blue side) If yes it's the problem I had one time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xvii-Dietrich Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share Posted March 31, 2019 No. I was the sole occupant of the airport, but good idea. I once had a re-fuel issue because of exactly that issue. Looks like a bug or WIP, testing in a L-39C (gun sight removed/NS430 enabled), the NS430 acquired a GPS signal once I started the engine (a requirement for FC3 aircraft or the 2D popup in the F-5, etc ). Yes, that was it. I was starting the NS-430 while still on battery/external power. Once I started the engine the satellite signals could get through. Many thanks for pointing out the work-around. Much appreciated! :thumbup: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nialfb Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 I was looking forward to giving the NS 430 a bash but I get the "NO GPS POSITION" message AND the cockpit goes dark! If I look down it brightens up and I can see everything, but look up and it goes dark. If I turn off the NS 430 all is well again. This is from a hot start with all power switches on. I tried it with a cold start and got the same thing. Game setup - I9-13900K, 3000 MHZ 24 Core 32 Logical Processors, NVIDIA RTX 4090, 42” ASUS 4K OLED monitor, TM HOTAS Warthog, TM TPR Rudder pedals, HP Reverb G2 VR - soon to be Bigscreen VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nialfb Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) I've been doing some testing on this ... If I grab the top left of the NS 430 window and expand the size the cockpit becomes lighter, shrink the window and the screen becomes darker! BTW, something else - The NS 430 is not available in the Multi-threading beta of DCS. I have the NS 430 Navigation System for the L-39C but I do not have the NS 430 Navigation System part to run it. I bought the two parts seperately, if that makes a difference. Edited April 8, 2023 by Nialfb Game setup - I9-13900K, 3000 MHZ 24 Core 32 Logical Processors, NVIDIA RTX 4090, 42” ASUS 4K OLED monitor, TM HOTAS Warthog, TM TPR Rudder pedals, HP Reverb G2 VR - soon to be Bigscreen VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nialfb Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Short video of issue ... NS 430 Navigation.mp4 Game setup - I9-13900K, 3000 MHZ 24 Core 32 Logical Processors, NVIDIA RTX 4090, 42” ASUS 4K OLED monitor, TM HOTAS Warthog, TM TPR Rudder pedals, HP Reverb G2 VR - soon to be Bigscreen VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Thanks for a the video. What we really need in this case is a DCS track. Have you checked your mission date is not pre-GPS? Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nialfb Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Hi I tried the DCS Track but it doesn't even show the NS 430 being resized hence the video. I just did as per the video, exited the mission and his svae track so unless I'm missing something. Also, my mission is set to 2016. Game setup - I9-13900K, 3000 MHZ 24 Core 32 Logical Processors, NVIDIA RTX 4090, 42” ASUS 4K OLED monitor, TM HOTAS Warthog, TM TPR Rudder pedals, HP Reverb G2 VR - soon to be Bigscreen VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nialfb Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Track attached. I created a new track but, as previously, you can't see me resizing the navigation window but you can do it yourself in the track. Navigation.trk Game setup - I9-13900K, 3000 MHZ 24 Core 32 Logical Processors, NVIDIA RTX 4090, 42” ASUS 4K OLED monitor, TM HOTAS Warthog, TM TPR Rudder pedals, HP Reverb G2 VR - soon to be Bigscreen VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 (edited) 1. On 4/7/2023 at 10:49 PM, Nialfb said: I was looking forward to giving the NS 430 a bash but I get the "NO GPS POSITION" message Looking at your track and the options it uses - Unrestricted GPS isn't set, so this isn't an error when flying a Russian L-39C with NS430 • Russian aircraft do not have access to western GPS satellites (in DCS) unless Unrestricted SATNAV is enabled in DCS\Options\Gameplay or enforced in the Mission Editor. DCS\Options\Gameplay "Unrestricted GPS" enforced in the Mission Editor 2. On 4/8/2023 at 1:03 AM, Nialfb said: The NS 430 is not available in the Multi-threading beta of DCS. This is a known issue with the Multi-thread preview build and effects all modules that use the NS430. 3. On 4/8/2023 at 1:03 AM, Nialfb said: If I grab the top left of the NS 430 window and expand the size the cockpit becomes lighter, shrink the window and the screen becomes darker! IIRC it's caused by one of the GFX settings, I don't recall the details, so you might need to experiment a bit. Tested using Single Thread Open Beta 2.8.3.38090 Edited April 10, 2023 by Ramsay i9 9900K @4.9GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 10 Pro x64, 1920X1080 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nialfb Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Many thanks for your comprehensive reply. I'll take a look at the GFX settings as things have moved on since I last looked. Game setup - I9-13900K, 3000 MHZ 24 Core 32 Logical Processors, NVIDIA RTX 4090, 42” ASUS 4K OLED monitor, TM HOTAS Warthog, TM TPR Rudder pedals, HP Reverb G2 VR - soon to be Bigscreen VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nialfb Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 A quick update ... The NS 430 is now working as expected other than the datrk/light thing. If anyone has any idea regarding what setting might be effecting this I'd be glad to hear. Im running the NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 4090. My current settings ... Game setup - I9-13900K, 3000 MHZ 24 Core 32 Logical Processors, NVIDIA RTX 4090, 42” ASUS 4K OLED monitor, TM HOTAS Warthog, TM TPR Rudder pedals, HP Reverb G2 VR - soon to be Bigscreen VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappie Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Thanks for your feedback. The NS430 brightness bug was reported earlier, but it seems it's not that easy to fix. Don't accept indie game testing requests from friends in Discord. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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