F/A18E/F Super Hornets block 1 and BLock 2 E/F ( lot 26)

Afaik Boeing only planning block 3 upgrade for dual seater Rhino right? No words for the single seat Echo yet?

Block III will be all dual seaters yes. New and Rebuilds from Late Block II F's w/ low Flight Hours.

Hello guys,

Have you ever planned on developing the Multi crew version of the Super Hornet?

I mean, who better than you to develop multicrew modules or not?

Please say YES! regardss :helpsmilie:

Hello guys,

Have you ever planned on developing the Multi crew version of the Super Hornet?

I mean, who better than you to develop multicrew modules or not?

Please say YES! regardss :helpsmilie:

I'd love to see a Super Hornet one day as well. It's the Navy's only fighter aircraft!

And I'd love for them to release both the single-seat E- and two-seat F-variants.

+1. Would be great to have Jester working in a superbug.

It is a great idea, but atm we have no such plans. Please do not get your hopes up high, it is just very very unlikely, but we will take your suggestion aboard of course.

a little bit of #3 juice just trickled out at the thought of an HB Rhino.....

Faaaaark

It is a great idea, but atm we have no such plans. Please do not get your hopes up high, it is just very very unlikely, but we will take your suggestion aboard of course.

Thank for your anwser, dream its free :) regardss

I'd really love to see a full fidelity SU-27S Flanker as an era accurate counterpart for the Tomcat. Nice and mostly analogue bird as well.

EDIT: And that's only if Heatblur did it, any other dev. and I'm not interested. ;)

Lol we don't even have enough official data on the Super Tomcat because its classified af doubt we'll see a Rhino in the next decade

Lol we don't even have enough official data on the Super Tomcat because its classified af doubt we'll see a Rhino in the next decade

We have a legacy Hornet (Lot20) - a Block I SUper Hornet isn't much different from that. Just bigger engines, more fuel and bigger airframe. Same radar and generally the same systems. Classification has little to do with how recent something is (generally).

I'd really love to see a full fidelity SU-27S Flanker as an era accurate counterpart for the Tomcat. Nice and mostly analogue bird as well.

Seconded. I've been dying for a full fidelity Russian 4th gen module.

It would be especially nice to eventually have F/A-18E/F in the future for after "top gun 2"

But what it would also be nice is EA-6B or E/A-18 electronic warfare

I know heatblur have no plans for this yet but they are the ones that have the systems like jester and a-6 much more to bring to DCS the right way I fear if other where to do the same we'd have to manage everything on those planes by seat hoping oh have it simplified to be overpowered or not effective

I would like that too, but it's likely to be some years yet before the possibility of a Super Hornet module can be realized.

We have a legacy Hornet (Lot20) - a Block I SUper Hornet isn't much different from that. Just bigger engines, more fuel and bigger airframe. Same radar and generally the same systems. Classification has little to do with how recent something is (generally).

The different engine alone results in different performance. Interior avionics are different as well.

It would be especially nice to eventually have F/A-18E/F in the future for after "top gun 2"

 

But what it would also be nice is EA-6B or E/A-18 electronic warfare

 

I know heatblur have no plans for this yet but they are the ones that have the systems like jester and a-6 much more to bring to DCS the right way I fear if other where to do the same we'd have to manage everything on those planes by seat hoping oh have it simplified to be overpowered or not effective

After Top Gun 2 is released, you know interest in the Super Hornet will explode among DCS fans! And when the Block III variant enters service, that demand will skyrocket to Mars.

I would be very happy to see any variant of the Superhornet in dcs. I think pilots (irl) generally suggest that the legacy c models are more enjoyable to fly. For me the E/F & Growler just have an awesome look. Massive LEX's more fuel, more bombs, a bigger bad ass Navy Jet.

Heatblurs Tomcat is increadible. And the recent Viper is shaping nicely. But the Hornet was a game changing arrival. I'd just love more of that, accepting that ED probably can't access the materials they'd need to do it justice (yet?)

Roll on the Intruder...

Lol we don't even have enough official data on the Super Tomcat because its classified af doubt we'll see a Rhino in the next decade

I mean, based on typical DCS development timelines If they started work today that would probably still be the case.:megalol:

Super hornets F 18 E, F and the advanced super hornet.

Hi

It will be a dream come true for many of us if one of this awesome jets come in DCS as flyable....I guess that first have to wait until the developers finish actual f18 that stills incomplete.

It'll have to wait until myriads of details become declassified too.

Block III will be all dual seaters yes. New and Rebuilds from Late Block II F's w/ low Flight Hours.

Any ETA on these AI units? (Block II for the start)

It would be nice but you'd never see anything beyond the Block I Super Hornet just due to classification. It's surprising to realize that the Super Bug has been around now for 24 years.

I cannot give an estimate hecause work schedule isnt set,

Theres an update thread for my project here:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=255089

I cannot give an estimate hecause work schedule isnt set,

 

Theres an update thread for my project here:

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=255089

Nice!

Matt Wagner stated in AMA full fidelity is not possible.

ED will not receive Boeing's license nor documentation.

Many systems are classified. AESA radar parameters, modes and logic are also classified.

BTW. According to pilots Super Hornet is a bit of an underpowered brick with excesive drag - far less entertaining to fly or dogfight than legacy Hornet.

Just a modern platform with modern avionics and stand-off weapon systems developed when there were no symetric enemy on the horizon, USSR just collapsed, China was not a factor yet - simply some low intensity insurgencies in the Middle East.

Nothing exciting except very modern classified avionics.

In both AA and AG missions you preferably don't see any enemy at all, just standoff AMRAAMs and JSOWs - very comfortable situation for real life pilots risking their lifes, but not so much for virtual pilots who want some action.

Matt Wagner stated in AMA full fidelity is not possible.

ED will not receive Boeing's license nor documentation.

Many systems are classified. AESA radar parameters, modes and logic are also classified.

 

BTW. According to pilots Super Hornet is a bit of an underpowered brick with excesive drag - far less entertaining to fly or dogfight than legacy Hornet.

 

Just a modern platform with modern avionics and stand-off weapon systems developed when there were no symetric enemy on the horizon, USSR just collapsed, China was not a factor yet - simply some low intensity insurgencies in the Middle East.

Nothing exciting except very modern classified avionics.

In both AA and AG missions you preferably don't see any enemy at all, just standoff AMRAAMs and JSOWs - very comfortable situation for real life pilots risking their lifes, but not so much for virtual pilots who want some action.

Block II is classified

LRIP I and II is practically a cockpit copy/paste design and systems wise.

Block I has a few systems updated.

No pilot I know would say that about his aircraft, the only ones that say things like that are pilots flying other aircraft and want to give a tough guy reason for not flying that aircraft.

(...) The Super Hornet’s pylons are canted outboard very slightly, significantly increasing drag at high speeds. Also, for you nerds out there, the Rhino’s design doesn’t incorporate the Area Rule as well as the Hornet, meaning that the Super Hornet will have lower transonic acceleration performance and lower top speed.

 

In the within-visual-range (WVR) arena, we finally arrive at the original question: which is more maneuverable? In my opinion, I’d say the edge goes to the Horne, slightly. Both jets have excellent handling characteristics, and to be honest, they feel very similar. If both aircraft have no external wing stores attached, the Hornet will have a noticeably crisper roll rate, but not by much. It is recommended for both aircraft that to get the best roll performance, they roll unloaded.

 

That is to say, roll while minimizing positive G. It is just a little bit tougher to get there in the Rhino than the Legacy; the Rhino requires a much more deliberate push forward of the stick to unload than the Hornet. However, both aircraft have excellent high angle-of-attack/slow-speed maneuvering, and both jets have excellent flight control logics, such as the “Pirouette.”

 

An additional logic was built in for the Rhino called Turbo Nose Down. As funny as that sounds, it is an important logic that allows the jet to recover from a slow-speed, nose-high attitude much easier by flaring the rudders and raising the spoilers. At lower altitudes, the Rhino’s engines produce much more thrust than the Hornet’s. This allows for improved energy addition and sustained turn rate. Maintaining airspeed while pulling high G is much easier than it was before. At higher altitudes, however, both aircraft have a little bit of a hard time with energy addition.

 

In summary, if I had to choose which aircraft to dogfight in, I’d pick a “big motor” legacy Hornet, with it’s crisper maneuverability and enhanced thrust. However, both aircraft utilize the AIM-9X Sidewinder and Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS), so as I usually say, it comes down to the “man in the box.”

Citation from:

https://sofrep.com/fightersweep/ask-fighter-pilot-hornet-vs-super-hornet/

Rhino is better in BVR and standoff obviously but not in VVR.

cheers