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Old 11-29-2019, 07:58 PM   #11
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BLG-66 is a cluster munition dispenser. Like MK-20, BL-755, CBU-54 (F-5E), CBU-87. In DCS it is designated as BLG-66-AC. I am not certain what AC is. Perhaps it is a Anti-runway Cratering variant. As far as Internet goes, the submunitions are just normal HE/EFP for use against soft and light armored vehicles.

BAP-100 is sort of a cluster. Its like 6 small bombs attached to a dispenser but there is no exterior shell. The bomb detaches, deploys a drag parachute, and at some height, fires a rocket motor which drives munition into runway surface, and weapon detonates heaving slabs of concrete and causing a large crater. Its smaller and lighter then earlier Durandal.
That's it but actually carried by 18.

So the BAP-100 would be used to damage the runway, and the BLG-66 IZ on top of it to delay repair.

BLG-66 EC to damage anything else on an airfield.
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Old 11-29-2019, 08:32 PM   #12
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Thats about right. But RAZBAM did not , despite early goal, of including BAP-100. RAF retired its Tornadoes in April of 2019. Which is sad, as that it is still a usefull platform, and is still in use in Germany and Italy. Maybe now British variant of Tornado GR4 is more likely for DCS.
There are, to best of my knowledge, no implementation of Durandal or any other rocket assisted cratering. There is one for FC3 Russian aircraft, but FC3 is perhaps not to be counted.
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Old 11-29-2019, 09:38 PM   #13
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And no internal jamming pod, F-16A needed a external POD.
Yes, you are right. I think the US F16c's today still use external pods, while for example Israeli and MLU versions carry internal jammers
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Old 11-30-2019, 09:17 AM   #14
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F-16C single seat do carry ALQ-131 and ALQ-184 as a belly pod. It is known that F-16 can have internal ECM and other mission equipment in the dorsal spine, when installed. How many F-16s in USAF and NATO air forces have that option ? I am not certain. Block 60 of Israeli and UAE have it integrated. Block 50 is certainly limited to carry ECM pod on center station. Those pods are heavy, about 500 lb. Thats 500 lb of fuel or munitions that F-16 can carry, if the mission does not need it.
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As far for the MLU variants, the Dutch, Norwegian, Portugese and Belgium have internal ECM's


Also some Jordanian aircraft have them, but these are ex-Dutch airforce jets
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Old 12-01-2019, 06:18 PM   #16
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No, at least in Belgium they still use jamming pod.
Internal jamming was planned but scrapped.

I doubt that others MLU F-16 got internal jammer...



Dutch F-16AM, AIM-120, JHMCS but ALQ-131

I think Polish F-16 Block 52+ have internal jammer
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Old 12-03-2019, 05:26 AM   #17
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IIRC it is BAP-100 which stands for Bombe Anti Piste (Anti Runway Bomb)
Well if you use it, and it works, certainly it will 'piste' off the enemy.
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Old 12-03-2019, 05:35 AM   #18
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On F-16, the internal jammer goes into dorsal spine, when one is installed.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?v...x=6&ajaxhist=0

Also , on modernized USAF F-16C Block 50/52 with AESA radar. The AESA radar doubles as an ECM pod. It bombards threat illuminator, or missile, with massive amounts of EM energy, overloading its capacitance. I think thats how it works.
ALQ-131 pods are really powerful, and at least partially self powered by internal ram-air turbine.
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the models represented in DCS world are "upgraded" versions of the orginial jets which dates from the early 80's.

Comparing these jets together makes no sense...

Funny fact however when the F16 and F18 came out, the Mirage was superior, due to the Matra 530 performing better than the Sparrow and the F16 could only carry Sidewinders
It makes sense, because I was talking about what we have in DCS, because that's what the OP was talking about. Sure, if we compare the initial variants of those 3 aircraft, the Mirage 2000C is looking pretty good, especially compared to the Sidewinder only F-16A, but in DCS we have the mid 00s F/A-18C Lot 20 and F-16C Block 50, while our Mirage is the 80s Mirage 2000C RDI.
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It makes sense, because I was talking about what we have in DCS, because that's what the OP was talking about. Sure, if we compare the initial variants of those 3 aircraft, the Mirage 2000C is looking pretty good, especially compared to the Sidewinder only F-16A, but in DCS we have the mid 00s F/A-18C Lot 20 and F-16C Block 50, while our Mirage is the 80s Mirage 2000C RDI.
Yes, but if you limit your Hornet to AIM-9M & AIM-7M, turn off L16 and JHMCS you pretty much have a Desert Storm Hornet from 1991.
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