ElCuco68 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I currently have an AMD FX-8350, a Gigabyte GTX-970, 32GB of RAM, and various SSDs, and I'm thinking that the next logical step for Oculus Rift would be the 1080Ti. I'll upgrade the CPU later with an I9 or I7, but I'll also need a new mobo, so I'll defer that for now. My questions: Is this really a good logical next step and 2: When should I take the plunge? Rumor has it that October would be a good time, price-wise. I'm anxious to do this, as my 970 is pretty much maxed out, even with that mod that everyone's trying (with the new metacaches and whatnot), so I can barely wait to try this, but if it's going to save me a couple hundred bucks or so to wait, I will. Asus ROG Maximus X Hero MB Intel i7-8700K 5.2 GHz delidded & lapped Corsair H100i CPU watercooler EVGA SuperNOVA 1200W P2 80+ Platinum PSU EVGA FTW3 watercooled GTX-1080Ti 32GB DDR4-3200 MHz RAM Two Toshiba XG5 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD's Various SSDs and HDDs, 24 terabytes 6 Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM fans in push/pull on CPU and GPU radiators. Windows 10 Pro 64, Oculus Rift CV1, TM Warthog throttle and flight stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElementLT Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I'm thinking (and hoping) maybe you can get a 1080ti at a decent discount after the 20 series is released. The prices are stilling to fall a little. Nothing like it was in the summer of 2017. You have a nice setup and a 1080 Ti would work nicely for VR. I also would recommend the i7 8700k over the i9 unless you have a specific need for the i9. if not, its just going to be over kill i believe. Coming Soon... The Fraternity Returns : https://thefraternitysim.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remi Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Why buy ancient almost 3 year old tech? Makes no sense. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlawal2 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I'm thinking (and hoping) maybe you can get a 1080ti at a decent discount after the 20 series is released. The prices are stilling to fall a little. Nothing like it was in the summer of 2017. You have a nice setup and a 1080 Ti would work nicely for VR. I also would recommend the i7 8700k over the i9 unless you have a specific need for the i9. if not, its just going to be over kill i believe. Not sure that the assumption of dropping prices is correct. in my experience, older Nvidia cards hold their pricing far longer than actually makes any sense.. (I have seen brand new GTX 780s that are still priced higher than current gen cards are. It makes no sense whatsoever, but it is what it is.. Probably retailers are stubborn and don't want to take a loss and so won't drop the prices.. And then they will sit on them forever because of it. I thought the same as you when the 1000 series cards arrived and I bought a 1070 simply because it made no sense to buy the previous gen due to the process being very close to the same. Time will tell however.. "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fri13 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Why buy ancient almost 3 year old tech? Makes no sense. Because the 2080 is "just" slightly overclocked 1080Ti where the main performance addition is in the raytracing performance. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 If Vulkan somehow works with mGPU I might get another 1080ti at the end of the year, if Vulkan then has entered Alpha or Beta testing in DCS for the public. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gear_monkey Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Why buy ancient almost 3 year old tech? Makes no sense. because trying to stay on the ragged edge of technology is a money trap. I just got a 1080ti and it is incredible and will last me years in performance. Win 10 64bit; 32 GB DDR4 3200 Ram; ASUS MoBo; 1TB SSD;Intel i7 8700K; GTX 1080ti 11GB; Thrustmaster Warthog;Odyssey + VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElCuco68 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 because trying to stay on the ragged edge of technology is a money trap. I just got a 1080ti and it is incredible and will last me years in performance. Exactly! It's almost the same reason I never, ever buy new cars. Five years old is the sweet-spot; just enough time to bleed off most of that new-car cost, but new enough to still have lots of life and tech innovation left. Asus ROG Maximus X Hero MB Intel i7-8700K 5.2 GHz delidded & lapped Corsair H100i CPU watercooler EVGA SuperNOVA 1200W P2 80+ Platinum PSU EVGA FTW3 watercooled GTX-1080Ti 32GB DDR4-3200 MHz RAM Two Toshiba XG5 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD's Various SSDs and HDDs, 24 terabytes 6 Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM fans in push/pull on CPU and GPU radiators. Windows 10 Pro 64, Oculus Rift CV1, TM Warthog throttle and flight stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElCuco68 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 So, when is this supposed to happen with the new card driving down the cost? About October or so? If theyre about $750 now, what do you think they'll go down to, approximately? Asus ROG Maximus X Hero MB Intel i7-8700K 5.2 GHz delidded & lapped Corsair H100i CPU watercooler EVGA SuperNOVA 1200W P2 80+ Platinum PSU EVGA FTW3 watercooled GTX-1080Ti 32GB DDR4-3200 MHz RAM Two Toshiba XG5 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD's Various SSDs and HDDs, 24 terabytes 6 Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM fans in push/pull on CPU and GPU radiators. Windows 10 Pro 64, Oculus Rift CV1, TM Warthog throttle and flight stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dburne Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I would be surprised if it drives it down all that much, there is such a large gap in pricing with the release pricing of these 20x cards. I would think there will still be a decent market for the 1080 series of cards. Lot of folks I am sure are not going to be keen on paying the pricing levels they have set for the new cards. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSigma Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1080ti's have come down below $600 US. I would buy now if you are dead set on going with Pascal instead of Turing. Ryzen9 5800X3D, Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite, 32Gb Gskill Trident DDR4 3600 CL16, Samsung 990 Pr0 1Tb Nvme Gen4, Evo860 1Tb 2.5 SSD and Team 1Tb 2.5 SSD, MSI Suprim X RTX4090 , Corsair h115i Platinum AIO, NZXT H710i case, Seasonic Focus 850W psu, Gigabyte Aorus AD27QHD Gsync 1ms IPS 2k monitor 144Mhz, Track ir4, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate w/extension, Virpil T50 CM3 Throttle, Saitek terrible pedals, RiftS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remi Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Turing is 30%-50% faster than Pascal. I think getting Turing is a no brainer, but I guess people like spending top dollar for 3 year old technology [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElCuco68 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 I'm thinking (and hoping) maybe you can get a 1080ti at a decent discount after the 20 series is released. The prices are stilling to fall a little. Nothing like it was in the summer of 2017. You have a nice setup and a 1080 Ti would work nicely for VR. I also would recommend the i7 8700k over the i9 unless you have a specific need for the i9. if not, its just going to be over kill i believe. How well does your rig work with the Oculus? I'm currently getting nauseating 25 fmp rates with my fx-8350 and GTX-970, even with that shader mod. Asus ROG Maximus X Hero MB Intel i7-8700K 5.2 GHz delidded & lapped Corsair H100i CPU watercooler EVGA SuperNOVA 1200W P2 80+ Platinum PSU EVGA FTW3 watercooled GTX-1080Ti 32GB DDR4-3200 MHz RAM Two Toshiba XG5 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD's Various SSDs and HDDs, 24 terabytes 6 Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM fans in push/pull on CPU and GPU radiators. Windows 10 Pro 64, Oculus Rift CV1, TM Warthog throttle and flight stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElCuco68 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) Turing is 30%-50% faster than Pascal. I think getting Turing is a no brainer, but I guess people like spending top dollar for 3 year old technology Well Jesus Christ, man; spit it out! What would you recommend? (BTW, I have no idea what the difference is between Turing and Pascal; I'm assuming that's the CPU?) Edit: Oh, it's a graphics card; the RTX 2080. Only $1200 ! Yeah, I'll get right on that. Edited August 23, 2018 by ElCuco68 Asus ROG Maximus X Hero MB Intel i7-8700K 5.2 GHz delidded & lapped Corsair H100i CPU watercooler EVGA SuperNOVA 1200W P2 80+ Platinum PSU EVGA FTW3 watercooled GTX-1080Ti 32GB DDR4-3200 MHz RAM Two Toshiba XG5 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD's Various SSDs and HDDs, 24 terabytes 6 Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM fans in push/pull on CPU and GPU radiators. Windows 10 Pro 64, Oculus Rift CV1, TM Warthog throttle and flight stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElementLT Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) How well does your rig work with the Oculus? I'm currently getting nauseating 25 fmp rates with my fx-8350 and GTX-970, even with that shader mod. My system runs VR very well at the moment. I have everything set to high but im not using MSAA of course. (huge frame it) I get a constant 45fps on the ground and I get 90fps while up high and not over a large city. And I have FSW disabled. Using a PD of 1.6 Edited August 23, 2018 by ElementLT Coming Soon... The Fraternity Returns : https://thefraternitysim.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElCuco68 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 Hey, so I was thinking of getting the i7 8700k and an Asus ROG Maximus X Hero MB, but I'm also looking at the new i7-8086K. They're pretty close in price, but the last one is 4GHz/5GHz. Any preference for VR? Asus ROG Maximus X Hero MB Intel i7-8700K 5.2 GHz delidded & lapped Corsair H100i CPU watercooler EVGA SuperNOVA 1200W P2 80+ Platinum PSU EVGA FTW3 watercooled GTX-1080Ti 32GB DDR4-3200 MHz RAM Two Toshiba XG5 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD's Various SSDs and HDDs, 24 terabytes 6 Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM fans in push/pull on CPU and GPU radiators. Windows 10 Pro 64, Oculus Rift CV1, TM Warthog throttle and flight stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElementLT Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I really do not know much about the 8086k. haven't really read up on it much. heck even with the 8700k, its not being pushed to hard with DCS. Coming Soon... The Fraternity Returns : https://thefraternitysim.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbattx Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I want to upgrade to the 1080Ti; how long should I wait? heck even with the 8700k, its not being pushed to hard with DCS.you are not seeing any of your cpu cores at 90% or higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElementLT Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 just took a glance at my cores and yes 1 core does have a few high spikes and im guessing that is from DCS but over usage is still pretty low. Coming Soon... The Fraternity Returns : https://thefraternitysim.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn8ke_iis Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 8086K is just a refined, bined, and overclocked 8700k marketed by Intel. If Silicon Lottery got a new batch in, go with one of theirs. They sort and bin all their chips and delid for a nominal cost above MSRP. I like overclocking and tinkering but I still buy from Silicon Lottery. 1000 series GPU have dropped a lot on Ebay used and Newegg new assuming you live in the States. Good time as any to upgrade. Realistically the 2070's are going to be hard to get a hold of at MSRP for a while if not indefinitely till 3000 series cards are released if the high end cards are outside your budget. Hopefully Nvidia has contingency plans for demand spikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 you are not seeing any of your cpu cores at 90% or higher? Well I do have 1 core that high and my peaks for CPU Total are >80% at times, often 60ish% when not down at 13-25% Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon_ Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I agree with the five years old car. Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevman Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Turing is 30%-50% faster than Pascal. I think getting Turing is a no brainer, but I guess people like spending top dollar for 3 year old technology Lol nv fanboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElCuco68 Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 So, I got this on eBay for $600, coming tomorrow. Going to see how it does, then decide if I'm going to get the 8700k CPU and Asus Maximus X Hero MB now or a little later: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-HYBRID-GAMING-Technology/dp/B074D7S8HR Asus ROG Maximus X Hero MB Intel i7-8700K 5.2 GHz delidded & lapped Corsair H100i CPU watercooler EVGA SuperNOVA 1200W P2 80+ Platinum PSU EVGA FTW3 watercooled GTX-1080Ti 32GB DDR4-3200 MHz RAM Two Toshiba XG5 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD's Various SSDs and HDDs, 24 terabytes 6 Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM fans in push/pull on CPU and GPU radiators. Windows 10 Pro 64, Oculus Rift CV1, TM Warthog throttle and flight stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag80 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 The new 2080 ti series have plenty more cuda cores and faster memory. The prices of 1080ti will definately drop. I am also waiting for the price to come down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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