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No new informations for the Community?

 

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Surprise come after Chinese new year:)

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What about sending the second batch before china new year? is it still valid?

New year is approaching fast

 

By info I get from produce now, everything are in plan.

 

But if any one of thousands part in the unit can not arrive in plan, it will be a problem.

 

We will try our best!

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By info I get from produce now, everything are in plan.

 

But if any one of thousands part in the unit can not arrive in plan, it will be a problem.

 

We will try our best!

 

Sound little bit scary

 

One more question, how long it takes to assemble and test those sets before you will ship them?

I just want to have an idea if it is realistic to do all that in 2 week period taking in account that you even have not gotten all those parts yet.

Thanks


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Any updates?

 

Chinese new year is on the 25th of January this year.

New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1)

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Alright, time to put a few thoughts together. I am not a professional writer or reviewer, but I'll include my thoughts. They may be all over the place! ;)

 

As said before, I haven't used the stick and only briefly held the grip. It felt substantial but since I have five different grips that fit the Virpil and TM bases (Warthog, Hornet, VFX F-14, WarBRD, and T-50CM2), I have no desire to figure out a mounting solution for the Winwing stick and swapping to it when I can simply swap grips otherwise. I'll keep it as a backup incase I have Virpil problems.

 

I primarily fly in VR and operate cockpit controls with PointCTRL. With PointCTRL being able to actually click cockpit buttons, I tend to be minimal when doing HOTAS assignments, and try to match the actual aircraft's HOTAS as much as possible.

 

I previously used an Obutto R3volution cockpit, but this past summer I switched to a self-built cockpit when I picked up the Thrustmaster TPR pedals. At this point, I didn't know the dimensions of the Winwing throttle, but knew I wanted something that would do a few things: 1) better accommodate the pedals, 2) have a seat height and stick height that lets me rest my forearm on my thigh, and 3) be able to easily switch between the Winwing and my other two throttles, the Warthog and the Virpil T-50CM (version 3).

 

I was fortunate that the side consoles I built had enough height in them to properly mount the Winwing throttle in them. I only had to build a new top cover and cut it to fit the Winwing unit. Because of the size of the hole needed for the Winwing, I can't just screw down the other throttles, but had to build and paint a small board that can fit in the space left when I remove the Winwing, and be screwed down in place. Pretty simple.

 

The Winwing throttle is only secured in my cockpit with four pieces of industrial strength Velcro from Lowe's, and doesn't shift around at all.

 

 

 

Now that I've got all that background out of the way, here's what I think.

 

First, the unit is big, and the throttle levers are TALL on top of the switch panel. Keep that in mind when thinking about how you're going to mount this, because it could potentially cause some ergonomic issues. I had some wrist soreness at first, but quickly got used to it.

 

The MAIN reason I wanted this throttle was the finger lifts and available afterburner push-through. This passed with FLYING COLORS. The feel of moving the throttle (it has a very large field of travel), along with operating the lifts and the friction lever (which is it's own axis and allows you to have the cockpit control match the actual one, a boon in VR), is incredible and feels well thought out. The throttle axes read 0% at the idle bump and have a DX button activation when turning them off, exactly like the Warthog throttle.

 

The method of attaching the throttle grips to the levers and connecting the wires is very solid. I very much look forward to seeing them come out with additional throttle grips down the line. I hope for the F-16 (they've already mentioned an F-16 stick grip), F-15, and A-10C. The F-15 and A-10 would be perfect for this unit, and if available, would mean I wouldn't have much reason to ever swap my throttle out. Though there are many differences between the F/A-18 and F-14 throttles, I feel this unit would be an excellent F-14 stand-in (though flaps and wing sweep levers would need to be operated either with a mouse or DX button).

 

Other throttle grip notes... first off, the pinky switch for external lights is a three-way switch on the Winwing, unlike the actual Hornet throttle, but I find that a bonus, because I can use that as a modifier in DCS and access my cockpit view controls when in VR.

 

Second, the three push buttons are very clicky. I feel they could be a little more substantial, but they're acceptable.

 

Third, the antenna elevation axis and TDC are rock-solid and I have no issues with them, except that since the antenna is auto-centering, when flying the Viper, I have to use a Joystick Gremlin profile with vJoy in order to make it a relative axis. Not Winwing's fault, it simulates the Hornet well.

 

Fourth, the countermeasures and comm switches are actually five-way hats. I use the comm switch pressed inward as a modifier, so I can access kneeboard commands with my Thrustmaster Hornet grip. Thanks for Winwing for making these five-way, it adds a lot of versatility, and allows me to simulate the F-16 dogfight switch.

 

Lastly on the grips, the speed brake switch is excellent, and works exactly like the Warthog and Cougar throttle switches: momentary to the rear, latched to the forward.

 

 

 

On to the switch panel:

 

Winwing did an excellent job on the switch panel overall. The backlighting is even and can be adjusted in their SimAppPro program (which you have to download from their site). The Formation and position knobs are both analog axes and have no detent. Perfect.

 

One other good thing here... each switch position is it's own DX button, meaning there won't be as much LUA editing to get an action for ON and for OFF. Good show.

 

I have a few small problems with the panel, but they're not show-stoppers.

 

First, the bleed air knob is a four-position knob, but unlike the real one, you CANNOT rotate it all the way around from end to end. To go from R OFF to OFF, you have to click through the other positions. I'll end up using PointCTRL to switch this in the cockpit and mapping this knob to something else... perhaps it's a candidate to be a modifier in DCS.

 

Second, the APU light operation requires you to leave SimAppPro open when running DCS. I skip this since I'm in VR.

 

Third, the GEN TIE reset switch only does one DX button on up and one on down, which means DCS can't read you opening the switch cover. I've had to set a combo in Joystick Gremlin to simulate opening and closing the cover when flipping the switch. I have to wonder if there would've been a way to have a microswitch activated when opening and closing the safety cover.

 

Fourth, and this is NOT Winwing's fault... the actual ENG CRANK and FUEL DUMP switches are magnetically held. For you to get them to operate practically, you'll have to map the ENG CRANK to the CYCLE commands, and will have to LUA edit the fuel dump ON and OFF (putting individual ON/OFF commands in default.lua), and use Joystick Gremlin to have FUEL DUMP only be a one second DX button instead of being constantly on, so it'll shut off when you reach bingo fuel.

 

Other than these small nagging issues, I find the switch panel to be pretty well done. I do wish they had put in the FCS panel so we could've had rudder trim, TO trim, and FCS reset. Maybe I'll eventually build my own panel for that, but for now, I'm using PointCTRL for it.

 

 

 

 

Overall, I find this to be a well-put together unit. Ask me again a few months down the line and I'll let you know how well it has held up.

 

Thanks for this. Any comments on how easy the system is to get setup with their software. I fly in VR primarily so I'm not looking to map a billion commands, I just want/need it to be easy to use.

New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1)

Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).

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Preordered Mine in September.... still waiting for delivery -,-

 

Your lovely hotas is almost ready.

hope it could make you happy.

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2 days until chinese new year. Still don't have my tracking number :(((

Update on progress and clarification of the situation would be helpful

 

 

I pretty sure all shipping in China ceased a few days ago. I'm afraid you looking at early February.......

 

 

It's worth the wait. IMHO no other HOTAS can touch it. It's a shame it was the early model that got reviewed. The final product is fabulous, even with a few minor issues. Every HOTAS has a few minor issues. Some worse than that.


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I pretty sure all shipping in China ceased a few days ago. I'm afraid you looking at early February.......

 

 

It's worth the wait. IMHO no other HOTAS can touch it. It's a shame it was the early model that got reviewed. The final product is fabulous, even with a few minor issues. Every HOTAS has a few minor issues. Some worse than that.

 

Oh great :doh: is it because of coronavirus?

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Force majeure.

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unforeseeable circumstances that prevent someone from fulfilling a contract.

 

The travel ban has now been extended to affect 36 million people living in Chinese cities I think. (It was 12 million people as I went to bed last night). I would not be surprised if the travel ban goes even further with perhaps a total lockdown of all Chinese airports. There has never been a lockdown of so many people EVER.

 

People have died. Many more people will die. Any inconvenience for some gadget being delayed needs to be put into perspective with that.

 

My thoughts go out to the Chinese people, their incredibly brave medical staff and the army (trying to keep public order) in dealing with this.

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Hello everyone,

We have update a notice in first page of this thread.

 

Best

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Stay safe Alex. Best wishes to you and your colleagues.

 

Thank you very much Milou!

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  • 1 month later...

Hope everyone’s doing well. Looking forward to the next batch shipping soon (within the next week according to WinWing’s Facebook). Very excited to try out my new hotas! :joystick:

Intel i7-8700k, Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti, 32 GB Ram, Oculus Rift, Odyssey+, HP Reverb.

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I just tried to order one, but once it was time to pay via PayPal, the PayPal site said: "The merchant isn't able to accept PayPal payments at this time. Please try again later or return to the merchant and choose another way to pay".

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I just tried to order one, but once it was time to pay via PayPal, the PayPal site said: "The merchant isn't able to accept PayPal payments at this time. Please try again later or return to the merchant and choose another way to pay".

 

I believe WinWing will open up purchases once this 2nd batch is all shipped.

Intel i7-8700k, Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti, 32 GB Ram, Oculus Rift, Odyssey+, HP Reverb.

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