Leviathan667 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Hello, I bought the Viggen mod during the last flash sale event. The plane looks awesome but I am a bit frustrated with the autopilot and plane controls in general. 1. Control of the plane using the joystick (Logitech 3D Extreme Pro) lacks in precision. For example, I cannot level the flight path of the Viggen as I am used to with the Mirage 2000 using the stick alone. I cannot precisely aim towards any given heading though I can aim towards the general direction of a given one and then spend most of my time correcting the course of the plane. 2. The autopilot does not help as, even when I activate the attitude autopilot under 7° roll angle, it will never level the plane. :( 3. I lowered the sensitivity of the joystick (for both X and Y axis, sames settings as show in image 3) and increased the dead zone interval, but to no avail. So I am a bit perplexed. There is something I must be doing wrong? Thank you in advance for your help :) Wishlist: Tornado ADV/IDS, Blackburn Buccaneer, Super Mystère B2, Saab J 35 Draken, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Do you have an asymetric loadout? If not, the AP should level out on all axis. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainyday Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 I would check out all the DCS AXIS controls for Viggen - mine was full of unnecessary stuff that was conflicting with the flight controls. I had similar problems with F-5 module, was VERY heavily turning left before I cleaned it up. Now it's the first thing I do with a new module. Viggen should fly straight and if not having asymmetric loadout should need very little - if any - roll trim. Nose up/down trim you do need quite a bit, though. A-10C Warthog | AJS-37 Viggen | F-5E Tiger II | Mig-15bis | MiG-19P Farmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyracer Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Disconnect the joystick and fly with mouse and keyboard. Spawn in mid air MY SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel pentium 3 @ 800 MHz, 256 Mb RAM, Geforce 2 64Mb, Dell screen 1024x768 + Microsoft sidewhiner joystick + TrackIR 2 + TrackClitPro SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 98, Noice Attack & VIASAT PRO, SnackView Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan667 Posted August 8, 2018 Author Share Posted August 8, 2018 The loadout is symetric and I cleansed the X and Y Axis devices to keep only the joystick (and the arrow windows on the keyboard). Later I'll try to disconnect the joystick to see how the plane behaves. Wishlist: Tornado ADV/IDS, Blackburn Buccaneer, Super Mystère B2, Saab J 35 Draken, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2. The autopilot does not help as, even when I activate the attitude autopilot under 7° roll angle, it will never level the plane. :( It does work. Are you sure you are less than 7 degrees? It is a very small roll. When you're in flight, make a very very small roll from level, click on the ATT AP, and you should see the plane level out. Whether this is 7 degrees or not is another matter. Hard to measure, but it's only about 2% of the full 360 degrees, or 4% of 180 degrees each way, so not much. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan667 Posted August 9, 2018 Author Share Posted August 9, 2018 I did give it a try again yesterday and it worked fine. I guess, maybe strong crosswinds will be compensated for by maintaining a slight roll (by the ATT autopilot)? Or, maybe my joystick which I had recalibrated necessitated a reboot of the computer. Thank you all for your replies :) Wishlist: Tornado ADV/IDS, Blackburn Buccaneer, Super Mystère B2, Saab J 35 Draken, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBoot Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Even if you're rolled too much, you can normally get it to auto-level by pushing the trim to one side, then the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leviathan667 Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) Which trim do you use to do this. I am a bit lost with the Viggen multiple trims: "RCtrl - A" Autopilot yaw trim Left Autopilot "RCtrl - D" Autopilot yaw trim Right Autopilot Emergency Trim Pitch Down Flight Control Emergency Trim Pitch Up Flight Control "RAlt - RCtrl - RShift - Left" Emergency Trim Roll Left Flight Control "RAlt - RCtrl - RShift - Right" Emergency Trim Roll Rght Flight Control "O" Roll centrering (Roll trim reset) Flight Control "RCtrl - ," Trim: Left Wing Down Flight Control "RCtrl - W" Trim: Nose Down Flight Control "RCtrl - S" Trim: Nose Up Flight Control "RCtrl - /" Trim: Right Wing Down Flight Control "RCtrl - Z" Trim: Rudder Left Flight Control Trim: Rudder Left Flight Control "RCtrl - X" Trim: Rudder Right Flight Control Trim: Rudder Right Flight Control Thanks Edited August 12, 2018 by Leviathan667 No jmage will show up Wishlist: Tornado ADV/IDS, Blackburn Buccaneer, Super Mystère B2, Saab J 35 Draken, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenrick Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 You're plain old regular hand flying trim is "Flight Control" trim. Autopilot trim only works when the plane is in one of the AP modes. Not sure when you'd use emergency trim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozality Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I've started noticing this as well. Don't recall it before, but in the past week or two I've been encountering it. I can level the plane and then hit the altitude hold, and it'll stay level, but when leveling from a standard turn, it never quite levels out. I'll investigate further. Kozality Vargar 1-2 107th JAS http://throughtheinferno.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 What do you guys mean by ‘level the plane’? Pitch and roll? Or just pitch? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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