[watermanpc]

And why not an F-16??

[robert.clark251]

I am going to go with ANYTHING.

[Kev2go]

razbams making a mig23MLA & the Mig19p with that new team they integrated.

perhaps a late model F-4E phantom ( slatted) and the F-100D super sabre to have comparable opposition.

[Weta43]

And why not an F-16??

Because Blue will have the FA-18C, and a contemporary (of that aircraft) Russian fighter would fill a bigger gap.

(for something DIFFERENT ?)

[Kev2go]

Originally Posted by Weta43

Because Blue will have the FA-18C, and a contemporary (of that aircraft) Russian fighter would fill a bigger gap.

(for something DIFFERENT ?)

there likely won't be any true redforce contemporaries of the F/A-18C

ED could not make the more sophisticated multirole Su27SM or Mig29SM due to strict russian anti espionage laws or something, and ED cancelled plan to not risk running into any trouble.( since they are headquartered in Moscow) so basically the Su27 and Mig29S will be the most capable fighters team red will have to work with until the forseeable future.

[ebabil]

Originally Posted by Kev2go

there likely won't be any true redforce contemporaries of the F/A-18C

ED could not make the more sophisticated multirole Su27SM or Mig29SM due to strict russian anti espionage laws or something, and ED cancelled plan to not risk running into any trouble.( since they are headquartered in Moscow) so basically the Su27 and Mig29S will be the most capable fighters team red will have to work with until the forseeable future.

wow that's a very bad news. i would really like to see full fidelity su-27 or su-33 in dcs

[Weta43]

Originally Posted by Kev2go

there likely won't be any true redforce contemporaries of the F/A-18C

ED could not make the more sophisticated multirole Su27SM or Mig29SM due to strict russian anti espionage laws or something, and ED cancelled plan to not risk running into any trouble.( since they are headquartered in Moscow) so basically the Su27 and Mig29S will be the most capable fighters team red will have to work with until the forseeable future.

I didn't say equivalent, I said contemporary.
I think although first entering production in '85, the Su-27S didn't really start getting delivered in numbers till 1990, F/A-18'C' is from '87, OFP 13C, Lot 20 is somewhere around 2000 (?, the Russians didn't really start upgrading their flankers to SM till 2004ish).

The Su-27S & the F/A-18C OFP 13C, Lot 20 could reasonably be considered contemporaries, even if one is sporting later upgrades

[archer86]

I hope for F-100D or f-104!
we need those legendary aircrafts

[Angus]

1) I would like a more modern version of the F5E, with INS, MFD ...To better stick to the DCS environment.
(Attention I already like to fly on the current version)

2)A F4 phantom would be awesome, but what version ???F4E minimum, with SEAD capability, pavespyke...

3)Make clicking FC3 models

[Kev2go]

Originally Posted by ebabil

wow that's a very bad news. i would really like to see full fidelity su-27 or su-33 in dcs

well ED could make full fidelity version of the su27 thats in Fc 3 but i meant the more modernized SM variants. which means no R77s to compete with aim120, and no MFD's. or guided munitions. it would give a a full fiedlty Su27, but not a new aircraft, and still not as versatile as nato aircraft. only the SM upgrades would really give that.

Originally Posted by Weta43

I didn't say equivalent, I said contemporary.
I think although first entering production in '85, the Su-27S didn't really start getting delivered in numbers till 1990, F/A-18'C' is from '87, OFP 13C, Lot 20 is somewhere around 2000 (?, the Russians didn't really start upgrading their flankers to SM till 2004ish).

The Su-27S & the F/A-18C OFP 13C, Lot 20 could reasonably be considered contemporaries, even if one is sporting later upgrades

well i read its also getting HMD. making the f18C OFP 13c lot 20 from around circa 2005, because thats when it started being installed. even if you took a 1987 F/A18C it still overall more versatile because even back then it already had MFD,s and ability to utilize guided munitions.

from what i read there really isnt much difference between Su27 and su27S except for more powerfull engines. after all the su27s was the more mass produced version, the Vanilla Su27 was regarded as something of a early/ pre production batch . I believe what we have in DCS Flamming cliffs its acutally the S, because the manual lists the engine thrust, and label desciption is the AL-31F that of the Su27S, not the earlier AL-31.

so all we get is a full fidelity in the end, but nothing to really raise its avonics or mulitrole capabilities.