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View Poll Results: With the aircrafts we have, should devs focus on creating a Vietnam environment ?
Yes, it would create a new dimension to the DCS World simulator 826 86.13%
No, I prefer 3rds to still work on aircrafts, and to fly in the same old Caucasus 133 13.87%
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Old 03-17-2015, 07:47 PM   #111
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Loaded question.
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Old 03-20-2015, 12:47 AM   #112
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[QUOTE=Chipwich;2348314]Just adding my .02 and preferences. Since we already have 2 of the major players in the Huey and Mig-21, in order I'd like to see:

Just wanted to point out that the Mig21"BIS" variant wasn't used by the north Vietnamese during the period of the Vietnam war.

these are the mig21 variants the North Vietnamese operated it seems.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=Ppn...%20war&f=false

BIS production runs first started in 1972 and lasted until 1985, which was about around the time Mig-23s started entering service in the USSR. however since its still a mig21 and 21BIS is still less sophisticated than the F4E in terms of avionics, I guess its still just about close enough to the period.
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Old 03-20-2015, 08:46 PM   #113
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After the F-4E, I would really like to see the F-8E Crusader. That awesome plane was the Navy's primary dogfighter until the F-4B's and F-4J's arrived in number. It also had the highest kill ratio of any fighter in Vietnam.
Now you're talking,excellent aircraft,shot down more enemy aircraft than the F-4,a very underated aircraft IMO.

I'd buy the F-8 Crusader in an instant if made available.
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Old 04-25-2015, 07:07 PM   #114
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I really hope we get a Vietnam theater. How hard would it be to take the mig-21bis and make a timeframe-accurate variant? Would making a mig-17 and mig-19 be made simpler by having the mig-15 already?
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Old 04-25-2015, 07:30 PM   #115
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Come to think of it, Vietnam would be a bit unbalanced if it was down to air power in DCS. List of 'must-haves' for each side:

US and pals:
F-4 Phantom
F-105 Thunderchief
F-111 Aardvark
A-1 Skyraider
A-4 Skyhawk
A-6 Intruder
A-7 Corsair
F-8 Crusader
F-86 Sabre
Huey
AH-1 Cobra
CH-34 Choctaw

vs

North Vietnam:
Mig-15
Mig-17
Mig-19
Mig-21
Mil Mi-4
Mil Mi-8
Sim-level SA-2

You would have to REALLY flesh out combined arms and add an infantry component to compel people to play North Vietnam on multiplayer.
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Old 04-26-2015, 12:01 AM   #116
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^ You forgot the OH-6 and the CH-47
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Old 06-02-2015, 05:21 AM   #117
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Come to think of it, Vietnam would be a bit unbalanced if it was down to air power in DCS. List of 'must-haves' for each side:

US and pals:
F-4 Phantom
F-105 Thunderchief
F-111 Aardvark
A-1 Skyraider
A-4 Skyhawk
A-6 Intruder
A-7 Corsair
F-8 Crusader
F-86 Sabre
Huey
AH-1 Cobra
CH-34 Choctaw

vs

North Vietnam:
Mig-15
Mig-17
Mig-19
Mig-21
Mil Mi-4
Mil Mi-8
Sim-level SA-2

You would have to REALLY flesh out combined arms and add an infantry component to compel people to play North Vietnam on multiplayer.
ummm F86 sabre didn't see combat during the Vietnam War, nor the mig15, see combat against American aircraft in the war.

The very last F-86 units to be withdrawn from service were in 1965 ( only 3 squadrons operated them until 65), and they were air national guard squadrons. Reservists, never deployed to Vietnam.

both were already way outdated and already withdrawn from service.

I don't think north Vietnams really unbalanced. most of those planes in the US List Are Ground attack and strike Aircraft. Vietnam has less variation, but to say are underpowered and have no chance against us aircraft is an exaggeration.

the only jets that could really give migs trouble in air to air would be the Agile F8 crusader, or the F4 phantom.
Despite phantom lack of maneuverability compared to even the mig21 it did have incredible engine thrust, and advanced radar, avionics, and missile amount count.

f-105 - ill maneuverable mach 2 Bomb truck
f-111 - came late in 72 during linebacker 2 and was strike aircraft used mostly during night raids.

A1- Propellor attack aircraft.

A4- Subsonic light attack jet.

a6 - navy attack jet radar and all weather

a7 - based on the f8 airframe, subsonic attack jet.

F-100D super sabre (not on list) - Originally a Mach 1.4 2nd gen supersonic aircraft. Fighter - bomber. By the time Vietnam came around it only saw brief usage as fighter escort and for strike missions into north Vietnam. Was relegated for Close air support sorties in south Vietnam only for most of the war, until it started being replaced by the A7. Already outclassed by the F105, and evermore by the F4. nonetheless still important to the war.
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Old 09-28-2015, 05:10 PM   #118
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I would like to see Vietnam map some time in the future. Me being the pessimist that I am I doubt that it will me very soon if ever. As for the list of aircraft above. I'd buy them all!
"Historically" the only group of the time that could have matched the US of A was, you guessed it Mother Russia.
So to say the list is unbalanced is.... unfair? Its what the North Vietnamese had. They fought a low, dirty, and brutal guerrilla war! How the hell else are you going to beat a world superpower? I think the campaigns should consist of the US getting hammered by SAMs and "flak you can lay down on". With the general hit and run tactics the Vietnamese used in the air. Operations like "Bolo", maybe modified slightly, should definitely be included. The problem with historically accurate campaigns in my opinion is that people could get sensitive about certain areas.
That being said the list of aircraft would be awesome to have by say 2025
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Old 09-28-2015, 07:08 PM   #119
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I would like Vietnam, but it would be so lopsided. Not an issue for those who want to play SP or as Americans.

So I'd rather have more individual, modern planes (80s-current) along with new maps.
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Old 09-28-2015, 07:24 PM   #120
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Don't forget the F5
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