Magic Zach Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 For the 53rd and Mayo skins, the roughmet gives the planes the appearance that isn't metallic as seen in photo references. DCS: References of the 53rd FS of the 36th FG: The aircraft painted for the 36th FG had some shine to them, enough that I'd call it baremetal, as the default USAF Standard skin our P-47 is. The roughmet is too rough, and the blue channel is nearly eliminated on the main body of the aircraft where it'd be ideal. The USAF Standard skin is a good model for how the white body of the 53rd and Mayo skins should appear as Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 3090, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 32GB DDR4-3200, Samsung 860 EVO, Samsung 970 EVO 250GB Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Zach Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 to compare side by side in similar light conditions... reference: USAF Standard: To compare literally side by side, the reference picture again: our default 53rd: Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 3090, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 32GB DDR4-3200, Samsung 860 EVO, Samsung 970 EVO 250GB Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Zach Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 furthermore: USAF standard: reference again: ingame: Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 3090, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 32GB DDR4-3200, Samsung 860 EVO, Samsung 970 EVO 250GB Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromhunt Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) Just have to change the gradiant map,maybe? https://i.imgur.com/Q28naqP.png[/img]"] https://i.imgur.com/2f9RELD.png[/img]"] Edited July 8, 2020 by cromhunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRG-Vampire Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 the appearance that isn't metallic... Let us see your description.lua :music_whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Zach Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 . Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 3090, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 32GB DDR4-3200, Samsung 860 EVO, Samsung 970 EVO 250GB Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Zach Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 Let us see your description.lua :music_whistling: Let's see YOUR description.lua. You know these are default skins right? Or open your skins in your modelviewer and see them yourself. Or look at screenshots literally anyone else has taken of either of these skins. I don't need to post my description.lua, because this is an issue everyone has. And if you think you dont, post a screenshot of one of these skins. Also I'm away from my PC until the 20th so description.lua is difficult for me to get a hold of right now. Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 3090, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 32GB DDR4-3200, Samsung 860 EVO, Samsung 970 EVO 250GB Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRG-Vampire Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I'm away from my PC... Me too ▲ so, there could be two problems only if the default-official skin is correct. 1. in the description.lua the used texture-map numbering is wrong (low probability) should be ROUGHMET (13). 2. Texture RGB channels is wrong. (high probability with the green channel) https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=4407899#post4407899 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art-J Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 (edited) I always thought these two skins were just unfinished by ED (like some P-51 ones, which still haven't been converted to roughmets to this day) as part of the whole early access thing. We saw them being like that already on the pre-release videos. After all, when Fw-190A-8 went early access, it also had pretty much only one skin finished and usable. ED most probably know about the issue, but poking them with a bit of reminder doesn't hurt. What I'm more interested in is how cromhunt managed to fix them unofficially, or where the fixed ones can be dowloaded from (IF they're publically available). Edited July 2, 2020 by Art-J i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRG-Vampire Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I'm more interested in is how cromhunt managed to fix them unofficially... It depends on the used materials what definied in the 3d model file. The final visual effect differ (shine width/intensity, reflection intensity as RGB channels) by the usage of default/aluminium/chrome materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggy Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Cromhunt! Holy balls can I have access to your skins folder please?? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Zach Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 Me too ▲ so, there could be two problems only if the default-official skin is correct. 1. in the description.lua the used texture-map numbering is wrong (low probability) should be ROUGHMET (13). 2. Texture RGB channels is wrong. (high probability with the green channel) https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=4407899#post4407899The latter. I had cracked open the roughmets for both skins and there was a lot more green on these skins than on the default (which looks perfect) Sent from my SM-A715F using Tapatalk Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 3090, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 32GB DDR4-3200, Samsung 860 EVO, Samsung 970 EVO 250GB Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Zach Posted February 17, 2023 Author Share Posted February 17, 2023 The 53rd FS livery for the P-47 still has broken roughmets, approaching three years later. Hardware: T-50 Mongoose, VKB STECS, Saitek 3 Throttle Quadrant, Homemade 32-function Leo Bodnar Button Box, MFG Crosswind Pedals Oculus Rift S System Specs: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS, RTX 3090, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 32GB DDR4-3200, Samsung 860 EVO, Samsung 970 EVO 250GB Modules: AH-64D, Ka-50, Mi-8MTV2, F-16C, F-15E, F/A-18C, F-14B, F-5E, P-51D, Spitfire Mk LF Mk. IXc, Bf-109K-4, Fw-190A-8 Maps: Normandy, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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