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[REPORTED]Can't place as many Flanker as supposed


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There are unwanted placement limitations in 14 of 21 Caucasian airbases for all flankers:

for the flyables: J-11A, Su-27, Su-33 & for the AI Su-30, Su-34

191 starting position is unallocatable with "Takeoff from ramp" / "takeoff from parking hot" state, mainly on aprons. (In previous DCS these are was available.)

The almost 18m wingspan A-10A fit into these places, the approx. 15m wingspan flankers not :-(

 

Anapa: parking position (PRK) 1..24

Novorossiysk: in apron 9..16: 10,12,14,16 blocked (good for A-10A)

Gelendzhik: 1..10 (Only 3 placeable into 11,12,13!!!)

Krymsk: 1..8

Krasnodar-Center: 1..17

Krasnodar-Pashkovsky: all OK (more parking place would be greatly appreciated for all flyables multiplayer missions)

Maykop: 7..16, 26..40, 41..52

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Sochi: 1..18

Gudauta: all OK

Sukhumi: in 1..23 range: only 1,4,21,22,23 usable for Flankers

Senaki: UPDATE: non hangar single positions: 57,62,63,68

Kutaisi: 1..12

Kobuleti: 1..16

Batumi: 3,5

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MinVody: all OK (The south-east fire station is not connected properly with the taxiway, should be from runway material.)

Nalchik: all OK

Mozdok: all OK

Beslan: in 1..15 range: only 7,9,11,13,15 usable for Flankers

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Tbilisi: OK

Vaziani: 6,8 +UPDATE2: single positions: 35,37;61,66,69,76,77,78,92

Soganlug: all OK

 

this is the state since the first 2.5.0 openbeta (2.5.0.13818.311) :-(

 

UPDATE2: There are 900 parking positions in Caucasus 2.5, great work!,

but 191 position is affected by this issue.

(705 flanker is placeable now. And there are 4 helo spots in Tbilisi.)

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=10lS6oyKGDAvRlwvBV5D0pNCIQlihhR-S

notforflankers_191_jpg.zip contents: A10s in the forbidden positions

02missing_batumi.jpg

04missing_novo.jpg

04missing_senaki.jpg

08missing_krymsk.jpg

10missing_beslan.jpg

10missing_gelendzhik.jpg

11missing_vaziani.jpg

12missing_kutaisi.jpg

16missing_kobuleti.jpg

17missing_kcenter.jpg

18missing_sochi.jpg

18missing_sukhumi.jpg

24missing_anapa.jpg

37missing_maykop.jpg

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Sochi-apron.thumb.jpg.d774e9d4361ccd5fe3a8c99a255635e9.jpg

notforflankers_191.miz


Edited by discwalker
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Yeah thats weird. They will taxi back to the spots that the editor doesn't let you select, not sure whats going on there. Will report it.

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Update2: Vaziani

 

+missions explorable in paused mode, uncontrolled AIs

+screenshots, blue labels from blocked position A-10As

 

flankers_only_705.miz: If you zoom enough to an airbase you can read the numbers of the blocked positions. (Tbilisi H01..H04 is for helos only.)

flankers_only_705.miz

flankers_all_900=705+4+191.miz

blocked_beslan.thumb.jpg.b1bfd365460094f045173196321877ea.jpg

blocked_maykop.thumb.jpg.6af65dd4b3e5c27b9a4530fa6b5e0d59.jpg

blocked_senaki.thumb.jpg.57c14ba02b48e1191517fc0df78f1a52.jpg

blocked_sukhumi.thumb.jpg.fac589b06168dc606ba3389136b539c6.jpg

blocked_vaziani.thumb.jpg.0a65175cb61e2b4eb7c8ef2c6656a046.jpg


Edited by discwalker
compress images because of quota

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There are alterings in the B-52H class plane's parking positions.

 

1.5.8 sum=208 positions

2.5.0ob sum=195 positions

+Mozdok is upgraded to hold more (in 1.5.8:4pieces capacity)

-Beslan lost the entire 5 pieces huge plane capacity (If a B-52H landed in 2.5ob it vanishing from the RWY.)

-Tbilisi lost a lot

-Batumi parking is unusual (one plane's tail almost touches garage, go away garage!)

~Vaziani maybe safer with the new 2 plane capacity rather then the old 7

~Senaki remained with the capacity of 3 but in my opinion can hold safely 8 huge planes

(the list is not complete)

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  • 1 month later...

unchanged

 

Yeah thats weird. They will taxi back to the spots that the editor doesn't let you select, not sure whats going on there. Will report it.

The functionality is the same in 2.5.0.15365.345ob. Not only apron positions affected, 191 spot is not few, those are missed -at least- for me.

It is this reported?

Solving this hold-back is important, affecting newly created missions.

gelendzhik-flankers-taxi_back_to_the_forbidden_spots.trk

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  • 5 months later...

Same issue in the Persian Gulf map

 

These issue is worser in PG than in Caucasus.

In two airfields there are zero flanker ramp spawning spot: Bandar Lengeh & Tunb Island AFB

58 position is good enoung to start an A-10A but not good enough for a flanker.

This is discrimination. :cry:

They will taxi back to the spots that the editor doesn't let you select
(by Grimes)

It is supsicious for me: this not needed big effort to fix.

It would be great if we could overpopulate the small airports with client RAMP start planes. (Runway start is not ramp start.)

1,2,4 & 5 ramp position is not a big opportunity to play multiplayer.

all4-Tunb_Island_AFB-notForFlankers_1.jpg.04263b24a4a75fb41c0a0b5f842c6b1c.jpg

all4-Tunb_Island_AFB-taxiBack_1.jpg.ab36c842c36f9bf55f31d9b6418eb4a4.jpg

all5-Bandar_Lengeh-notForFlankers_1.jpg.325f21d587a7c1b0a0283133c0e5de72.jpg

all5-Bandar_Lengeh-taxiBack_1.jpg.5550412837f8abd40d0987eedc58d827.jpg

2,5,3,21235_PG_FlankersTaxiBackToSpotsUnableToSpawn.trk

pg_notForFlankerSpawn_58positions.miz

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Persian Gulf update

 

Where A-10A can spawn it should be good for flankers too. But now 107 EASY position unusable in PG map. (Thunb Island and Bandar Lengeh cannot hold Flankers but can hold A-10As in all 4 and 5 positions)

And more airports could accomodate Flankers for its 15m wingspan, where currently A-10As not placeable. (Lavan Island, Jiroft, Bandar-e-Jask)

 

pg_107position_flankersSizeOKbutUnusable.miz

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543358251694292992/716433991837679636/pg_107position_flankersSizeOKbutUnusable.miz

 

al_dhafra.jpg

 

bandar_abbas.jpg

 

tunb_island_x4.jpg

 

bandar_lengeh_x5.jpg

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