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Old 12-23-2015, 02:13 PM   #171
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As i want the most accurate system, i guess it's more easy to have information from a 70's system than something from 2000.
You don't have database for RWR's Gazelle so the Tiger...
Some years ago, i worked on Gazelle and Puma, that's why i'm waiting for it.

Just my point of view, don't worry.
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Old 12-23-2015, 03:12 PM   #172
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But we do have a RWR in our Gazelle and we already stated what we had to change to give you guys an RWR in the gazelle cause it is classified.
So there are ways to handel certain things and not violate any laws or restrictions.

Sure fact is, you will not get the permission to model a F22 raptor with all systems to 100%, but maybe to 80%.
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Old 12-23-2015, 03:19 PM   #173
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Yes, of course, that's why i prefer old aircraft, we can be near 100%
So, which Tiger version ? HAP? HAD? UHT? ARH?
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Old 12-23-2015, 06:17 PM   #174
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I've only spoken to one pilot about them but the words "that piece of shit" were used.
Heard the same - hoping to crawl over one in Jan.
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Old 12-23-2015, 07:19 PM   #175
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Why do people always think that projects are not entirely possible cause there is some part or some avionic classified do to some code or frequenze ?
I figured that much more is possible then we assume it could be.
Because that's the most frequent excuse we get.

And because of that we try to console ourselves/fool ourselves that this excuse really holds so it makes us feel better. And becaues we don't want to be Don Kihots.

Honestly I call BS on many of these excuses, for example when it comes to the Su-30 - the plane has been sold around the globe for the last 20 years and I'm positive Russia's enemies have gotten their hands on it, so there's nothing really secret about it anymore; it should therefore be no problem to model it accurately enough for FC3. But we still keep hearing classified.

And, in the end when it comes to this, what do we stand to win fighting against wind-mills or hitting with our heads against a brick wall?

That's why we just, resignedly, accept this "it's classified".
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Old 12-23-2015, 07:32 PM   #176
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Because that's the most frequent excuse we get.

And because of that we try to console ourselves/fool ourselves that this excuse really holds so it makes us feel better. And becaues we don't want to be Don Kihots.

Honestly I call BS on many of these excuses, for example when it comes to the Su-30 - the plane has been sold around the globe for the last 20 years and I'm positive Russia's enemies have gotten their hands on it, so there's nothing really secret about it anymore; it should therefore be no problem to model it accurately enough for FC3. But we still keep hearing classified.

And, in the end when it comes to this, what do we stand to win fighting against wind-mills or hitting with our heads against a brick wall?

That's why we just, resignedly, accept this "it's classified".
Thanks for speaking up on this "issue" as well. I agree 100% with you.
For me, anything that cannot be simulated because it's classified or not readily available can still be "emulated" based on the underlying principles. There is no magic or alien technology involved. Everything can be derived from other sources and implemented by the means of emulation if need be.
AFM/PFM/EFM flight modeling can be based on geometry, shape, weight, and thrust, etc, and I am sure there isn't a lack of info out there in general.

I would love to see ED upgrading existing variants of outdated aircraft to match what's happening in the real world. Right now, DCS is "frozen in time" when it comes to upgraded military hardware, and that's a real shame.

Nothing is stopping ED to (for example) merge the Su-25A and Su-25T into the Su-25SM and/or merge the Su-27 and Su-33 into the Su-35. These changes are all very modular - like it was in real life. ...one can dream.

But this is a different topic than Polychop Helos... so I stop my rant.
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Old 12-24-2015, 02:27 AM   #177
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What about Tiger UHT?

Please no, the UHT has no gun turret on the chin! That takes away a lot of fun for me, and is an iconic weapon for any attack helicopter

I think the HAD version is probably the most diverse in it's capabilities. But also the ARH seems interesting with the laser guided rockets. (might be able to hit something with rockets for a change haha)

Maybe if we ask nicely we'll get all 3 varients UHT/HAD/ARH
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Old 12-24-2015, 01:15 PM   #178
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Don't forget the HAP, I want to hunt some KA-50s
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Old 01-27-2016, 11:44 PM   #179
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I have my fingers crossed for the Tiger. ARH would be my humble preference, but I would pre-order any version of the Tiger if it was announced.
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Old 01-31-2016, 11:55 PM   #180
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Don't forget the HAP, I want to hunt some KA-50s


Can go hunting in any of them though. Much better to get a gunship that has a chance against armoured vehicles.
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