memoric Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Hello Quick question, I've read on reddit that the real life hornet grip is out of plastic, is that true? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Talionis Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) Yes, or a composite of some sort. .... don't want the stick to be heavy under Gs at that location where the grip is. Edited June 5, 2019 by Lex Talionis Find us on Discord. https://discord.gg/td9qeqg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 You really can't put down polymer anymore. They make Glocks from it. Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keks Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 There is no reason to make it out of anything else. Why would you use metal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banzaiib Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Chemicals... it's made out of chemicals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoric Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 It's sad, because winwings HOTAS is made of metal, was hoping for an acurrate copy of the real one... so :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 It's sad, because winwings HOTAS is made of metal, was hoping for an acurrate copy of the real one... so :/ #2 post. Do you know Lex is a real Hornet pilot? Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoric Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) #2 post. Do you know Lex is a real Hornet pilot? Yeah and why does that matter? I got the answer to my question. I'm grateful non the less! Even better when it comes from a real pilot :)! Edited June 5, 2019 by memoric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Yeah and why does that matter? I got the answer to my question. I'm grateful non the less! Even better when it comes from a real pilot :)! It matters because you said you want the grip like the real one and Lex told you the real one is made from plastic. The fact that some Chinese company made one from metal doesn't matter. They got it wrong. Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keks Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 It's sad, because winwings HOTAS is made of metal, was hoping for an acurrate copy of the real one... so :/ Due to the metal is better because it is metal and the more heavier equals more better retardation of a large portion of potential buyers this is a reasonable decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoric Posted June 5, 2019 Author Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) @BuzzU Yes that is what i wanted to say in my post :). Unfortunately winwing made it out of an unrealistic material. Edited June 5, 2019 by memoric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBamse Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 BuzzU: well, the Glock lower outer frame is made of polymer atleast. Slide, slide rails etc is made of metal ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorlima01 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Just put on wide receiver gloves, wrap your stick in Tennis racket grips and you'll be an authentic Blue Angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzU Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 BuzzU: well, the Glock lower outer frame is made of polymer atleast. Slide, slide rails etc is made of metal ;) I know but it shows how tough it is. Buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Doesn't matter what the stick is made from, it's not gonna experience high G's anyway. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oban Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Doesn't matter what the stick is made from, it's not gonna experience high G's anyway. +1 AMD Ryzen 9 7845HX with Radeon Graphics 3.00 GHz 32 GB RAM 2 TB SSD RTX 4070 8GB Windows 11 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-GERAT Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Being made of polymer does not mean is gonna have the same weight or touch of the real one. I'm curious how much is going to weight the TM grip.. can't imagine with the same weight than the T-50 which feels like a toy compared with the Warthog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supmua Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 (edited) Real life Hornet Grip Material? I’d rather have some metal in my stick (replica or not) than some cheap plastics that look like the same materials from kiddie water guns that you get from Toys R Us. I current own several sticks and most of them gave me that feeling on the first impression (not gonna be specific here since it might hit some nerves). Yeah they work fine but they don’t feel premium. Edited June 6, 2019 by Supmua PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborg71 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Polymer is fine....but I'd suggest a glock lower frame/real f18 stick is a quality mould that is either one piece or parts that are joined effectively. Problems with Polymer sim grips (eg Virpil) are that they are just too flimsy. You can feel the seperate parts bending/creaking under your (two finger) grip. Superglue should not be a requirement to get a solid immersive feel. Metal seems to resolve that......at least until a gaming manufacturer can produce a High quality Polymer that can cope with a little pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Lighty Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 High quality polymer plastics are abundantly available to the manufacturing sector and easy to mould/shape accurately, with an incredibly high surface finish. I don't understand why the "proposed" TM grip or the Winwing grip is made of metal - it has the wrong feel, will likely be unnecessarily heavy and I guess is more expensive to manufacture and hence sell. I don't get it but I, for one, would MUCH prefer a quality polymer/plastic grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harker Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Agree. We're supposed to be a sim market and the real stick is made out of plastic. Why not get a high quality polymer stick? If the stick is good and durable enough to be used in a real combat aircraft, it's certainly durable enough to be used on a desk or a simpit. One thing to note though is that a stick lighter than the Warthog will probably require even more force to be used with the Warthog base, because of the strong springs. If that's their reasoning, I can't really fault it, although they could still add metal weights inside a polymer shell. The vCVW-17 is looking for Hornet and Tomcat pilots and RIOs. Join the vCVW-17 Discord. F/A-18C, F-15E, AV-8B, F-16C, JF-17, A-10C/CII, M-2000C, F-14, AH-64D, BS2, UH-1H, P-51D, Sptifire, FC3 - i9-13900K, 64GB @6400MHz RAM, 4090 Strix OC, Samsung 990 Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift. Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I think the reason metal grips are used in the sim world is that the forces exerted at the base are much higher if you aren't using an extension. As the real aircraft always use 'extensions' there is no need for the grip to be made of metal. 476th Discord | 476th Website | Swift Youtube Ryzen 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64GB, Quest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkiii Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 Heavy handed pilots still manage to break grips regardless of the moment arm or composition of the grip. They are experts at breaking aircraft in novel ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 I think the reason metal grips are used in the sim world is that the forces exerted at the base are much higher if you aren't using an extension. As the real aircraft always use 'extensions' there is no need for the grip to be made of metal. That makes no sense. The stick in a real Hornet, for example, weighs about 35 pounds at max deflection. Your home PC joystick is probably no more than 2 or 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdee Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) There is no reason to make it out of anything else. Why would you use metal? Metal = quality, if heavy = high quality, plastic = toy, not realistic.:megalol: ps. F18 can take off from the boat with no catapult and with wings folded in this game. Edited June 8, 2019 by mdee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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