javelina1 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) Hola group, I've been running my current rig for the last 5 years, (specs are in the sig). Kinda getting the bug to upgrade. Would appreciate feedback regarding a proposed gamer BOM. What I thought of buying new: i7-9700k Noctua NH-D15 CPU cooler Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra MB 32GB (2x16) DDR4 RAM (curious to hear a recommendation) 500GB NVMe M.2 SSD (Samsung?) Seasonic Prime Ultra 750W titanium Power Supply Win 10 Pro... Computer case (hunting around for this as well) I plan to reuse these for a bit: GTX 1080 (until a later date) Soundblaster Z sound card Oculus Rift CV1 (to be replaced at a later date as well) Would appreciate some feedback and guidance. TIA, -Jav ps. the rig will be dedicated to DCS, ArmA3, the other flight sim, and anything VR.... :-) Edited April 14, 2019 by javelina1 MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnadentod Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) Case - Lian Li O11 Dynamic or Air version. Superb Airflow and visuals (not that I care for visuals on a computer but a lot do). W10 is spyware. Do you play ArmA3 EUTW mod? Edited April 14, 2019 by Der Hirte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon_ Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) I will go for a Focus Plus Gold. Gold certifier is enough for a single and dual video card system. This PSU is warranty for 10 years, so you have to figure what components you will have during that time. If you expect to go on SLI? Get something bigger. It's not a future proof question, the real question is how much are you addicted to DCS :D Edited April 14, 2019 by Demon_ Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbattx Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 W10 is spyware which OS do you suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnadentod Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 which OS do you suggest? Windows 7. Almost as reliable and timeless as XP (was). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Case - Lian Li O11 Dynamic or Air version. Superb Airflow and visuals (not that I care for visuals on a computer but a lot do). W10 is spyware. Do you play ArmA3 EUTW mod? thanks for the case suggestion. Will research it further. I've heard of EUTW, but have not played it. Going with Win10 because of the driver and binary support... ;) Otherwise, I'd stick with Win8.1. (yep, it's been a great O/S for me). I'm flipping a coin... i7-9700k or i9-9900k. the later being about $80 more... MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 ....how much are you addicted to DCS :D Lots buddy! For my gamer rig, I'm generally using it for flying DCS about 85-90% of the time. Followed by that other flight sim, and then ArmA3 and other VR titles... ;) MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secoda Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 See below... I-7 8700K 5 Ghz OC, Trident Z RGB 32GB DDR4-3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z390-E Gaming, ASUS RTX2080 8GB OC, NVMe PCIe M.2 1 TB SSD, EVO 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HD, WD Black 2 TB HD image, Corsair H150i Pro Cooler, HOTAS 16000FCS, Corsair Crystal 570X RGB case, Corsair RM750x Gold PSU, Razer Cynosa Chroma RGB keyboard, Razer Mamba Wireless Gaming Mouse, Samsung QLED 4K 82" :) TV/monitor. HP Reverb. Lenovo Explorer. IRL Private Pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbattx Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Planning a new "Gamer" build - requesting feedback Windows 7. Almost as reliable and timeless as XP (was). sure. except neither of those timeless OS’s are supported anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizard_03 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) Just got the 9700k n I love it. It slaughters old CPU intensive games like DCS. Don’t need hyper threading for my situation so it works very well IMHO plus can always go up to 9900k if it becomes necessary to have lots of cores. Edited April 15, 2019 by Wizard_03 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocSigma Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 If you're not locked into blue, then I'd just wait the two months to see what Ryzen3 has to offer. At the moment with Vulcan still not implemented, IPC is king as far as DCS is concerned, but Ryzen 3 is supposed to equal current coffee lake cpu's as far as IPC is concerned, not to mention they are on a 7nm die, which theoretically could mean greater overclocking potential - as far as heat is concerned. Ryzen9 5800X3D, Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite, 32Gb Gskill Trident DDR4 3600 CL16, Samsung 990 Pr0 1Tb Nvme Gen4, Evo860 1Tb 2.5 SSD and Team 1Tb 2.5 SSD, MSI Suprim X RTX4090 , Corsair h115i Platinum AIO, NZXT H710i case, Seasonic Focus 850W psu, Gigabyte Aorus AD27QHD Gsync 1ms IPS 2k monitor 144Mhz, Track ir4, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate w/extension, Virpil T50 CM3 Throttle, Saitek terrible pedals, RiftS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnadentod Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) sure. except neither of those timeless OS’s are supported anymore What do you need a "supported" OS (up to date 100% of the time) for a gamer rig for? You don't. Don't fall for memes if you don't have an "up to date" OS suddenly your computer stops working forever, it doesn't. ... but Ryzen 3 is supposed to equal current coffee lake cpu's as far as IPC is concerned, not to mention they are on a 7nm die, which theoretically could mean greater overclocking potential - as far as heat is concerned. We wish, atleast I really do. Edited April 15, 2019 by Der Hirte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 .... then I'd just wait the two months to see what Ryzen3 has to offer. At the moment with Vulcan still not implemented, IPC is king as far as DCS is concerned, but Ryzen 3 is supposed to equal current coffee lake cpu's as far as IPC is concerned, not to mention they are on a 7nm die, which theoretically could mean greater overclocking potential - as far as heat is concerned. One thing I do have, is time. :) I usually spend a month or two researching big ticket items, and then pull the trigger. MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbattx Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 One thing I do have, is time if you wait until next year there will be other options too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 if you wait until next year there will be other options too. and if the VR performance improvement comes through very soon, I probably could wait it out. :thumbup: MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 thanks for the case suggestion. Will research it further. I've heard of EUTW, but have not played it. Going with Win10 because of the driver and binary support... ;) Otherwise, I'd stick with Win8.1. (yep, it's been a great O/S for me). I'm flipping a coin... i7-9700k or i9-9900k. the later being about $80 more... Honestly, I have the 9700k and its fine. The 9900k does have more cache though, so it will perform better, plus you get hyperthreading for non-DCS stuff. The main reason I went with the 9700k was that I bought "half built" and just threw a GFX card in it. And for anything other than DCS the 9700k will be fine. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 What do you need a "supported" OS (up to date 100% of the time) for a gamer rig for? You don't. Don't fall for memes if you don't have an "up to date" OS suddenly your computer stops working forever, it doesn't. We wish, atleast I really do. If you never go to ANY other site than DCS, I suppose you minimize the danger. But there will come a day when some peripheral will not work because the said vendor didn't test it with Win7. Not today, not next month, but in two years? Maybe. Then what will you do? And if you do VR, Win10 is a *MUST*. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnadentod Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) ... will not work because the said vendor didn't test it with Win7. Not today, not next month, but in two years? Maybe. That is like 5 years out, Windows 7 is epic and it's obvious to many what Windows 10 does is a bit too obvious. Especially when you ask yourself why they suddenly gave a new OS to everyone for free ... = get as many people to use it as possible. Then what will you do? Migrate to a non Windows OS because a huge amount of people will decide against a Windows 10 spyware on their system and thus make Linux distros work for their games for example if they don't do it by now. Microsoft also might decide to not let support for Windows 7 end too soon if at all because they know they would lose a considerable amount of security aware users to the competition. As a last resort I will be forced to use Windows 10 for certain things and this makes it undeniable what's up isn't it? Edited April 16, 2019 by Der Hirte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Hola group, I've been running my current rig for the last 5 years, (specs are in the sig). Kinda getting the bug to upgrade. Would appreciate feedback regarding a proposed gamer BOM. What I thought of buying new: i7-9700k Noctua NH-D15 CPU cooler Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra MB 32GB (2x16) DDR4 RAM (curious to hear a recommendation) 500GB NVMe M.2 SSD (Samsung?) Seasonic Prime Ultra 750W titanium Power Supply Win 10 Pro... Computer case (hunting around for this as well) I plan to reuse these for a bit: GTX 1080 (until a later date) Soundblaster Z sound card Oculus Rift CV1 (to be replaced at a later date as well) Would appreciate some feedback and guidance. TIA, -Jav ps. the rig will be dedicated to DCS, ArmA3, the other flight sim, and anything VR.... :-) :thumbup: nothing to moan about, good choice :) Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 in my own world, I have updated the last "7" to 10 last week, only 1 2008R2 is still running. Once Sage supports SRV2019 I will upgrade that one too. This is a repeating thing every couple years. For some it is tears, for some it is just work without any personal drama ( like me ). Tempus fugit Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 :thumbup: nothing to moan about, good choice :) Gracias buddy, I appreciate your feedback. :) MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 in my own world, I have updated the last "7" to 10 last week, only 1 2008R2 is still running. Once Sage supports SRV2019 I will upgrade that one too. This is a repeating thing every couple years. For some it is tears, for some it is just work without any personal drama ( like me ). Tempus fugit Just curious, for your 7 to 10. Are you performing an upgrade, or a complete new install of the O/S? MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegOhm_SD Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Computer case (hunting around for this Seriously consider This case, it has many great features. http://www.coolermaster.com/case/lan-box-haf-series/haf-xb-evo/ Cooler Master HAF XB EVO , ASUS P8Z77-V, i7-3770K @ 4.6GHz, Noctua AC, 32GB Corsair Vengeance Pro, EVGA 1080TI 11GB, 2 Samsung 840 Pro 540GB SSDs Raid 0, 1TB HDD, EVGA SuperNOVA 1300W PS, G930 Wireless SS Headset, TrackIR5/Wireless Proclip, TM Warthog, Saitek Pro Combat Pedals, 75" Samsung 4K QLED, HP Reverb G2, Win 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelina1 Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 Seriously consider This case, it has many great features. http://www.coolermaster.com/case/lan-box-haf-series/haf-xb-evo/ Holy smokes! that thing is built like a brick s*** house! :smilewink: MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansangb Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 That is like 5 years out, Windows 7 is epic and it's obvious to many what Windows 10 does is a bit too obvious. Especially when you ask yourself why they suddenly gave a new OS to everyone for free ... = get as many people to use it as possible. Migrate to a non Windows OS because a huge amount of people will decide against a Windows 10 spyware on their system and thus make Linux distros work for their games for example if they don't do it by now. Microsoft also might decide to not let support for Windows 7 end too soon if at all because they know they would lose a considerable amount of security aware users to the competition. As a last resort I will be forced to use Windows 10 for certain things and this makes it undeniable what's up isn't it? Wow. In a world of Google, Facebook, and *EVERY* web page with cookies, people will revolt against Win10? Perhaps. But I grew up with Linux, Mac OS, and Windows. I'll take any OS that gives me the best game performance. And more importantly, *available* games. So that would be Windows for me. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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