Vertigo72 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) I want to know how fast your PCs are using a standardized test. Since no one responded, I made my own, short track, which is pretty much worst case scenario using only free modules. Its also quite representative of my flying skills :) This may be more a CPU than GPU test, as my GPU utilization rate is pretty low; this could be due to the amount of planes, objects and missiles, but this isnt uncommon in complex missions or online, so that doesnt make the results any less relevant. If you want to post your results, please follow these rules: - if possible, disable all overclocks and run your hardware at stock speed (easier to compare) - Set DCS graphics settings to HIGH preset (vsync disabled). - Change your resolution to 1920x1080 - I strongly recommend you restart DCS after making any changes and delete fxo and Metashader2 folders or the settings may not be applied. - Double check your drivers that you are not forcing vsync or other AA settings through the GPU drivers. - Use Afterburner and start the benchmark when the track starts to play, stop it immediately at the end. Use the log file it creates. If you dont know how to do that, this will help: Then report your results along with your hardware config. Below is my result. Feel free to use it as template DCS 2.5 open beta 2.5.4.30038 Ryzen5 2600X stock speed, water cooled. 3.6Ghz base clock, 4.2GHz boost, actual clock ~4.1 GHz 16 GB DDR4-2133 Geforce 1070 stock speed M2 NVME SSD 01-05-2019, 17:13:35 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 12898 frames rendered in 219.532 s Average framerate : 58.7 FPS Minimum framerate : 12.4 FPS Maximum framerate : 112.9 FPS 1% low framerate : 11.5 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 5.3 FPS Reran this test after receiving my DDR4-3200 10-05-2019, 16:47:19 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 14646 frames rendered in 218.609 s Average framerate : 66.9 FPS Minimum framerate : 13.9 FPS Maximum framerate : 136.1 FPS 1% low framerate : 13.1 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 10.4 FPS You may want to run it a few times, and post your best results.Benchmark short.trk Edited May 22, 2019 by Vertigo72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xoxen Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) Hi Vertigo, nice idea. I´m not sure about the graphic settigs in the replay. Does it display your or mine? I guess mine, so this should have a huge impact on the results. Xoxen 3-05-2019, 11:13:28 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 13262 frames rendered in 222.188 s Average framerate : 59.6 FPS Minimum framerate : 0.7 FPS Maximum framerate : 107.1 FPS 1% low framerate : 10.4 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 0.7 FPS Graphic Settings: Edited May 3, 2019 by xoxen AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, 64GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 CL16, Asus TUF Gaming RTX 4080 OC, Windows 10 64bit Home Premium, TrackIR 5 with TrackClip: Pro!, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base + TM Warthog Stick + 7cm extension + WINWING Orion 2 with F-15EX grips, Cougar MFDs with 8" displays, Saitek Rudder Pedals, Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 5120x1440 @120 Hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo72 Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 Hi Vertigo, nice idea. I´m not sure about the graphic settigs in the replay. Does it display your or mine? Your settings, and thats why I asked everyone set them to DCS' HIGH preset and 1080p. If you use different settings or resolution, the results will not be comparable and the framerates will not tell us much. I also read elsewhere you need to quit DCS, and delete fxo and Metashader2 folders after changing your graphics option settings, or they may not apply. Didnt make a difference for me, but it might, so its probably a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxen Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) Oh man, I´ve overseen the "high" advice. My bad. Will repeat the test and post the result and add the settings I actually have for reference. Here the result with "high" settings: 03-05-2019, 13:20:59 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 12887 frames rendered in 220.062 s Average framerate : 58.5 FPS Minimum framerate : 5.9 FPS Maximum framerate : 106.9 FPS 1% low framerate : 10.9 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 1.0 FPS The GPU had a load of appr. 50% during the Benchmark. As my GPU is faster than the one from the OP I guess this is a CPU limited result. Which makes sense at low resolutions. Edited May 3, 2019 by xoxen AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, 64GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 CL16, Asus TUF Gaming RTX 4080 OC, Windows 10 64bit Home Premium, TrackIR 5 with TrackClip: Pro!, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base + TM Warthog Stick + 7cm extension + WINWING Orion 2 with F-15EX grips, Cougar MFDs with 8" displays, Saitek Rudder Pedals, Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 5120x1440 @120 Hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC_Official Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 you guys running this with Vsync enabled ? Click here for tutorials for using Virpil Hardware and Software Click here for Virpil Flight equipment dimensions and pictures. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxen Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) you guys running this with Vsync enabled ? I ran it with VSync off (both, ingame and NVidia graphic settings) Edited May 3, 2019 by xoxen AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus, 64GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 CL16, Asus TUF Gaming RTX 4080 OC, Windows 10 64bit Home Premium, TrackIR 5 with TrackClip: Pro!, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base + TM Warthog Stick + 7cm extension + WINWING Orion 2 with F-15EX grips, Cougar MFDs with 8" displays, Saitek Rudder Pedals, Samsung Odyssey G9 49" 5120x1440 @120 Hz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HC_Official Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I ran it with VSync off. both ingame DCS settings and (Nvidia /AMD graphic settings vsync off as well?) Click here for tutorials for using Virpil Hardware and Software Click here for Virpil Flight equipment dimensions and pictures. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo72 Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 Please read the OP carefully, it addresses both. Vsync should off, both in game and in the driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbik Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Intel i7 4790K, AMD Vega 64, 16GB DD3 RAM 03-05-2019, 18:26:43 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 11795 frames rendered in 224.047 s Average framerate : 52.6 FPS Minimum framerate : 0.6 FPS Maximum framerate : 179.9 FPS 1% low framerate : 5.9 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 0.6 FPS Do, or do not, there is no try. -------------------------------------------------------- Sapphire Nitro+ Rx Vega 64, i7 4790K ... etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo72 Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 Intel i7 4790K, AMD Vega 64, 16GB DD3 RAM Thats an interesting result. Impressive max framerate, I guess that vega does work when it can stretch it legs. But your low and average frame rates seem to suffer from either the CPU or possibly the ram? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbik Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Thats an interesting result. Impressive max framerate, I guess that vega does work when it can stretch it legs. But your low and average frame rates seem to suffer from either the CPU or possibly the ram? Hard to say. I have a 34" 3440x1440 monitor, so the game was running in a window with the settings from the original post. My RAM is running at 1866Mhz, I do not remember the timings. I did not close anything in background though, chrome, antivirus, all the store apps etc. The max. FPS, I did not check it before, but maybe that was a spike when the replay stopped and menu appeared? I have closed it the second it stopped though. Do, or do not, there is no try. -------------------------------------------------------- Sapphire Nitro+ Rx Vega 64, i7 4790K ... etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo72 Posted May 3, 2019 Author Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) even at the end I dont get FPS remotely that high. I dont think I ever seen them that high in DCS on my machine period. edit: oh in the menu. Possible. Not sure what FPS I get there. Background apps etc, shouldnt matter too much on our 8/12 thread cpus. I even had a (lightweight) virtual machine running in the background, it makes no difference. I will say that every time you play the track, its slightly different. On some playbacks the missile that kills me, doesnt appear to hit and my plane tumbles without any visible damage. Kinda weird. The times where I switch camera's also seems to change. Overall I think the result should still be fairly representative though. Edited May 3, 2019 by Vertigo72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbik Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Just checked the DCS menu FPS. I get 200 FPS there. My guess is that the max FPS is from the demo/menu switch. I have stopped the benchmark at the moment it was switching. Do, or do not, there is no try. -------------------------------------------------------- Sapphire Nitro+ Rx Vega 64, i7 4790K ... etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitMaster Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I ran it the way I fly with 5G on the CPU and GPU in default, which is 2000MHz. HIGH settings and 1920x1080. Started to bench 1 sec after hitting FLY and stopped as soon as the track ended. 04-05-2019, 12:55:14 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 15888 frames rendered in 212.093 s Average framerate : 74.9 FPS Minimum framerate : 1.5 FPS Maximum framerate : 130.1 FPS 1% low framerate : 13.2 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 1.1 FPS Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Asus 1080ti EK-waterblock - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus PG278Q 27" QHD Gsync 144Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backy 51 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I want to know how fast your PCs are using a standardized test. Since no one responded, I made my own, short track, which is pretty much worst case scenario using only free modules. Its also quite representative of my flying skills :) This may be more a CPU than GPU test, as my GPU utilization rate is pretty low; this could be due to the amount of planes, objects and missiles, but this isnt uncommon in complex missions or online, so that doesnt make the results any less relevant. If you want to post your results, please follow these rules: - if possible, disable all overclocks and run your hardware at stock speed (easier to compare) - Set DCS graphics settings to HIGH preset (vsync disabled). - Change your resolution to 1920x1080 - I strongly recommend you restart DCS after making any changes and delete fxo and Metashader2 folders or the settings may not be applied. - Double check your drivers that you are not forcing vsync or other AA settings through the GPU drivers. - Use Afterburner and start the benchmark when the track starts to play, stop it immediately at the end. Use the log file it creates. If you dont know how to do that, this will help: Then report your results along with your hardware config. Below is my result. Feel free to use it as template DCS 2.5 open beta 2.5.4.30038 Ryzen5 2600X stock speed, water cooled. 3.6Ghz base clock, 4.2GHz boost, actual clock ~4.1 GHz 16 GB DDR4-2133 Geforce 1070 stock speed M2 NVME SSD 01-05-2019, 17:13:35 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 12898 frames rendered in 219.532 s Average framerate : 58.7 FPS Minimum framerate : 12.4 FPS Maximum framerate : 112.9 FPS 1% low framerate : 11.5 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 5.3 FPS You may want to run it a few times, and post your best results. What build of Windows are you using? If Windows 10, can you re-run your test in Windows 10 Game Mode (Win key + G) and see if you get a FPS increase? Thanks for the benchmark effort! I don't need no stinkin' GPS! (except for PGMs :D) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo72 Posted May 4, 2019 Author Share Posted May 4, 2019 What build of Windows are you using? If Windows 10, can you re-run your test in Windows 10 Game Mode (Win key + G) and see if you get a FPS increase? Thanks for the benchmark effort! I can already say its not going to make a difference. Game mode might be useful if you have an old/low end cpu with few cores and you are running a game that uses about as many and you forget to close any cpu hungry background apps. Then Im sure it helps. A bit. But like most these days, I have more cores than I know what to do with, 6 cores and 12 hardware threads, and DCS uses about 2 or 3 of them. Background tasks can easily run on a few spare cores, as long as they are not excessively IO heavy (say a virusscanner), it makes ~zero difference. Certainly not more than inherent FPS variance when running a track in DCS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo72 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 Reran this test after receiving my DDR4-3200 10-05-2019, 16:47:19 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 14646 frames rendered in 218.609 s Average framerate : 66.9 FPS Minimum framerate : 13.9 FPS Maximum framerate : 136.1 FPS 1% low framerate : 13.1 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 10.4 FPS For reference, this was with DDR4-2133: 01-05-2019, 17:13:35 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 12898 frames rendered in 219.532 s Average framerate : 58.7 FPS Minimum framerate : 12.4 FPS Maximum framerate : 112.9 FPS 1% low framerate : 11.5 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 5.3 FPS The performance boost is even more significant in the F14 module where I got a 20% FPS boost just from upgrading my ram... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchwappingMags Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) i9-7920x no oc, just default turbo boost (4ghz). RTX2080. DDR4 3000mhz 32gb ram M2 NVME SSD Heres the benchmark: 14-05-2019, 04:21:02 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 13564 frames rendered in 214.875 s Average framerate : 63.1 FPS Minimum framerate : 21.5 FPS Maximum framerate : 111.9 FPS 1% low framerate : 11.9 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 9.3 FPS and my game settings are attached below. also, i dont know if my settings are too high or something is bottlenecking my fps(cpu clockspeed?). multiplayer is a very trashy experience for me because the fps is just so low. around 40, but it doesnt feel like 40. constantly dropping and "lagging". nothing compared to streamers on twitch(with similar settings/same server), their game just runs so smooth.(and yes i go in just to compare fps) Edited May 14, 2019 by SchwappingMags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo72 Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) To compare hardware, we all need to use the same graphics settings, otherwise the results dont mean anything, thats why I chose "DCS default high". If you want to do some testing which of these settings hampers your framerates most (visibility range seems the most likely), feel free, but its a different topic. I will say that at 1080p resolution, the GPU hardly matters at all. The bottleneck is entirely CPU single thread performance, and to some extend IO (ram speed). I hope you have better uses for that 12 core cpu than DCS (which only uses ~2), and better uses for that 2080 than flying DCS @1080p, because both are wasted on DCS. Edited May 14, 2019 by Vertigo72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo72 Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 Oh just noticed your setting for civilian traffic. Turn that off ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Ran it to your specs, did it twice, pretty big distinction between max frame rate of both. 14-05-2019, 19:45:01 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 12397 frames rendered in 225.641 s Average framerate : 54.9 FPS Minimum framerate : 0.6 FPS Maximum framerate : 178.1 FPS 1% low framerate : 5.0 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 0.6 FPS 14-05-2019, 19:52:00 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 11937 frames rendered in 220.781 s Average framerate : 54.0 FPS Minimum framerate : 0.7 FPS Maximum framerate : 91.5 FPS 1% low framerate : 4.7 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 0.7 FPS Regards DL available skins here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/?CREATED_BY=Strut Pictures of my Skins here: https://imgur.com/a/bOQyQqW [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64bit, Intel® Core i7-5820K CPU OC @ 4.50GHz x6, X99A GAMING PRO CARBON, MSI RTX 2080 TI GAMING X TRIO 11Gb, 32GB DDR4 RAM, SSD 960 EVO250GB, SSD 850 EVO 500GB, JetSeat, MFG Crosswind Pedals, VPC Mongoose T-50, TMWH, DSD ButtonBox, Pimax 5k XR/BE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medmac Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) Ran it to your specs, did it twice, pretty big distinction between max frame rate of both. You stop benchmarking after test ends, so "178.1 FPS" its FPS at main menu. My Specs: 4790k@4.8 Vega 56@UV(Vram@955mhz) 16gb 2600mhz DDR3 13-05-2019, 01:38:06 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 8980 frames rendered in 219.141 s Average framerate : 40.9 FPS Minimum framerate : 19.7 FPS Maximum framerate : 94.8 FPS 1% low framerate : 12.7 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 9.6 FPS oops. Sorry to all, i made benchmark of release version. re-bencmark open beta: 14-05-2019, 14:03:23 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 15956 frames rendered in 218.953 s Average framerate : 72.8 FPS Minimum framerate : 22.9 FPS Maximum framerate : 152.2 FPS 1% low framerate : 12.9 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 6.8 FPS Huge difference in FPS because trek work wrong on release version. Edited May 14, 2019 by medmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 You stop benchmarking after test ends, so "178.1 FPS" its FPS at main menu. Thx Medmac Regards DL available skins here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/?CREATED_BY=Strut Pictures of my Skins here: https://imgur.com/a/bOQyQqW [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64bit, Intel® Core i7-5820K CPU OC @ 4.50GHz x6, X99A GAMING PRO CARBON, MSI RTX 2080 TI GAMING X TRIO 11Gb, 32GB DDR4 RAM, SSD 960 EVO250GB, SSD 850 EVO 500GB, JetSeat, MFG Crosswind Pedals, VPC Mongoose T-50, TMWH, DSD ButtonBox, Pimax 5k XR/BE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo72 Posted May 14, 2019 Author Share Posted May 14, 2019 My Specs: 4790k@4.8 Vega 56@UV(Vram@955mhz) 16gb 2600mhz DDR3 Interesting. Ive seen this in my similar F14 benchmarking thread as well: PCs using amd vega do pretty well, and that is despite the fact, the main bottleneck is overwhelmingly CPU, not the GPU. So my interpretation isnt that vega performs well (which Im sure it does, but at 1080p in DCS it doesnt really show), but rather it appears AMD drivers incur a lower CPU overhead in DCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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