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Old 05-19-2017, 05:11 PM   #41
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Some people would do well to spend a week, or two, playing Factorio. Then they will have a much better idea of how finite resources affect trying to do multiple things at the same time.
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Frostbite, Cryengine/Lumberyard, UnrealEngine, IDtech, Vulkan/DX12 are all examples of gaming technologies that obviously make use of 4+ CPU cores today. Ryzen platform updates have been slowly closing the gap and even occasionally surpassing Skylake.
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Six months ago I was considering an i5-7600k and nice Z270 m/b and overclock the CPU to 4.6 Ghz. Now it is difficult if impossible to justify this with the emergence of the Ryzen 5 series. Here in Australia I can grab a Ryzen 5 1600 and a top line m/b like the Asus VI Crosshair for AUD $668. While an Intel i5 7600k and Asus Maximus IX Hero would set me back AUD $734. That's an additional AUD $66 for a lesser 4 core/4 thread system vs AMD's 6 core/12 thread alternative. If I coughed up the extra $66 for the 4 core/4 thread Intel rig, I can see myself in a year or two winging about not having enough cores and threads and how new games run like crap on my rig compared to others with more cores/threads on their CPU. The only justification I can find for the i5-7600k is if you only play old single threaded games and nothing else along with using little to no productivity software. So yeah, right now it's AMD for me unless Eagle Dynamics take another 6 months to release finally a merged and improved DCS platform by which time Intel should have a response with mainstream Coffee Lake i5's and i7's.
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Six months ago I was considering an i5-7600k and nice Z270 m/b and overclock the CPU to 4.6 Ghz. Now it is difficult if impossible to justify this with the emergence of the Ryzen 5 series. Here in Australia I can grab a Ryzen 5 1600 and a top line m/b like the Asus VI Crosshair for AUD $668. While an Intel i5 7600k and Asus Maximus IX Hero would set me back AUD $734. That's an additional AUD $66 for a lesser 4 core/4 thread system vs AMD's 6 core/12 thread alternative. If I coughed up the extra $66 for the 4 core/4 thread Intel rig, I can see myself in a year or two winging about not having enough cores and threads and how new games run like crap on my rig compared to others with more cores/threads on their CPU. The only justification I can find for the i5-7600k is if you only play old single threaded games and nothing else along with using little to no productivity software. So yeah, right now it's AMD for me unless Eagle Dynamics take another 6 months to release finally a merged and improved DCS platform by which time Intel should have a response with mainstream Coffee Lake i5's and i7's.
This is exactly the problem, it probably wouldn't have been a year or two ago but now with the Ryzen 5 line poised against the i5's within the same price range, it is hard to justify the premium Intel commands for a quad-core CPU however good the single-threaded performance may be. Even I have a hard time now to choose which upgrade path to take, sure the games I play today are mostly heavily single-threaded (FSX etc.) but it just feels wrong to pay more for less. I think Intel can kill of their i3 line because they basically killed it themselves with the 67€ Pentium G4560 with HT and just put the whole i5 line under 200€ if they want to put some real pressure on AMD because as it stands, within time, people will upgrade and the Intel path isn't that obvious any more.
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