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Old 10-30-2018, 10:12 AM   #11
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Whether to get a projector or not!
Pro:

Huge image, increasing immersion and amazing gaming experience.
Also movies, can't beat a decent projector when it comes to movies.

Con:
Noise, those fans will blow ALL the time.
Contrast and light control, you will want to be able to completely black out your space.
Any light, any LED will impact the image.
And we aren't talking about a set of curtains, maybe just maybe two sets of black out curtains would be ok.
I had to cover my PS4 controller with electrical tape just to be able to stomach using the ps4. That LED on it's lowest setting was enough to begin washing out the image.
Of course it depends on how finicky one chooses to be, I am fairly 'out there' I admit.

Setup needs to be exact, practically 1mm one way or the other will change focus on one side of the screen or push image out of screen.
There is a reason why I have mine mounted with $300 ceiling mount, it was worth it.
If I was to compare, setting up a projector and screen is easily 3-4x times the work and effort of wall mounting a TV.
Granted the projector in question here is a short-throw unit, this could simplify the process a lot, but comes at other detriments.

Cost, not just for the unit. But in running.
Those lamps, and you won't find laser or LED equivalents under $5k still that performs well enough for gaming or movies.
And a lamp will easily cost $200-$400, yes you can find cheaper on ali-baba etc but these are often knock-offs that burn differently and at higher temps than the original.
First means colours will never be right, and the second kills your projector.
Many have lost a $1k trying to save $80.

Also a thing to note, all cheaper DLP's including this ACER are single-chip DLP based units using a spinning colour wheel that introduces artefacts many are sensitive too, for some that means the image is constantly flickering or they just simply get a massive headache watching the image.
This is not a small percentage either, I believe out of ten guys, three would get headaches and another two if not more would see the artefacts and flickering.

And I suspect gamers might even be more prone to this since they are trained to spot frame by frame differences.

Only way to know is to go test at a shop or a buddy who has one, and give it some time.

And as for Immersion imo, no large tv or projector will ever compete with VR.

I have at my personal disposal a 34" ultrawide monitor, a 65" UHD TV, and a 100" Sony HW50 projection setup.
Id pick my rift over all of them every time for simming.
And it was the cheapest of them all.

Still.
Projectors are awesome.
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Old 10-31-2018, 04:22 AM   #12
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I love projectors, but not for $5k! I have an Epson 8350 I bought as a refurbished unit from them and it's lasted years now.
It's also a 3lcd/3chip (no spinning wheel...) projector, so image is very nice and no flickering. 1080p, very bright and short throw,
though not ultra short. I gladly paid $950 for mine, but they have them for $675(!) now.

https://epson.com/Clearance-Center/H...p/V11H373120-N

The 8350 is very low latency for a projector, under 20ms which may not be up to 'gamer' standards for a shooter, it's more than adequate
for normal people and sims. I use it hours every day since 2014 and am on the original bulb, which only costs like $50 to replace.

I too use my Rift for simming/playing though, but it's nice when friends are over they can see what's going on in-game and I like watching
others playing too. Bottom line it's a sweep projector, that seemed to outperform the units made to replace it as well.
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Old 10-31-2018, 08:54 AM   #13
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Some great comments thank you all.

I don’t want VR just yet, I am a soft pomme in Australia and even padded headphones have me sweating like a Virgin in a brothel, I recon full on VR I would need a personal AC unit! Plus I get travel sick bad.

I thought projector because I am building a pit and frankly enjoy playing on a 27” 1080p so a projector should be better?

What I didn’t like was when I put a 60” plasma in just to test the big screen feel, but it just made everything big, I don’t want to just stretch the 32” screen to 100”, I want the cockpit the same size but with a bigger field of view.

My pit will be in a different room to my usual setup as I also play a lot of games like Rise of Industry or Company of Heroes and FPS so I thought I could use the projector when I am flying and donate it to the movie room when I am elsewhere.

I was also thinking I need a screen to replace the old 1080p perhaps I could get a decent monitor for the Other games and just move it to the front of the pit, but then is a 27” widescreen 4K better than a 1080p projector?

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Old 10-31-2018, 09:48 AM   #14
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i live north west aus and i have my flight pc in the garage with no cooling. vr does get sweaty but a projector is basicly a small heater. when i ran 2 of them in a small room they would turn off after 10 mins due to overheating.

me personally if i was not using vr id got for 3 large screens in a 90degree setup ,

like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuKVtTfWktw

probably cost about the same as 1 projector but gives u a better picture and in a dark room you wouldnt notice much else.
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Old 10-31-2018, 10:03 AM   #15
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What 3 screens though for under $1500 Aussie?
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Old 10-31-2018, 02:26 PM   #16
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the good guys normally have the cheaper brand tv's that are UHD 55inch for around $500, a place like that if u walked in and said you wanted to buy 3 tv's they would do you a good price, just depends how picky you are with brands.
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Old 10-31-2018, 08:24 PM   #17
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Ah yes, I did see some at weekend! Thanks guys good discussion!
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Old 10-31-2018, 10:57 PM   #18
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I'm wondering how big the distortion will be at the edges. I'm a long time VR user, but I miss that level of a comfort that traditional cockpit setup would give me. I hate trying to see the switches through the nose gap and other limitations VR has, not even saying that reading briefings for some complex missions is a pain.
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