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Old 12-13-2019, 03:19 AM   #31
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You mean 2070 FE? There isn't any evidence to actually support that, scroll up in the thread and you will see. I've had 2 2080 Ti's since they first came out. No issues.

Even a failure rate of 1% is a lot of people but it's just bad luck. That's why it's important to shop from a reputable vendor/AiB with a good return policy and warranty. You don't usually hear from people who get good cards, they are too busy playing. It's the people who get bad cards who are more likely to write about it on forums. Negative word of mouth in general spreads farther and faster than positive word of mouth. It's just human nature.

Nvidia grosses a billion dollars a quarter on gamings sales. That's a lot of cards, so that's potentially 10,000's of people if not more getting bad cards and having to return them. There's no way for Intel, AMD, and Nvidia to produce as much as they do without having some defects.
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Old 12-13-2019, 07:56 AM   #32
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Nvidia grosses a billion dollars a quarter on gamings sales.
Or mining...
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:50 AM   #33
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The only people still mining Ethereum with Nvidia GPUs for profit are subsidized or stealing electricity. I live in a cold climate and electricity is about .12 cents a Kwh and it's not profitable for me anymore. I sold off all my 1070s I was mining with. When I lived in Germany cost of electricity was over double that and I seriously doubt it's gotten any cheaper since.

Nvidia actually took a real big hit in "gaming" sales at the end of last year when Ethereum tanked. There was no real way to for industry analysts to know how much of Nvidia's "gaming" sales were from mining. Now we know, roughly 30%. In retrospect, just buying and holding AMD, Intel, and Nvidia stock was a much better investment. Kind of like the people who got rich selling picks and shovels to miners during the Gold Rushes of the American West.

Bitcoin is mined with ASICs, it's not efficient or profitable with PCs and all those other alt-coins are mostly just scams.
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Old 12-13-2019, 11:09 AM   #34
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Sn8ke_iis,

I can assure you it got even more expensive over here since you left.

Due to the nationwide change to renewable energy we pay an extra on top of our already extraordinary high kW price. Many people here struggle with paying their electricity bills.
My household, ALL LED, pays about 160€/month, which is way way too much. The price for 1 kWh is 0,30 € incl. all taxes and that EEG extra obulus

Back in the days I had 2 waterbeds, 1 Server, NO LED, and I payed about the same with 2.5x-3x the consumption. If we hadn't changed our habits I'd be paying ~500€ a month for that.

BTW, Germany got the highest kWh price in whole Europe and it is only going one way, UP.

Time to get the candle out and employ a few Hamsters + Wheel
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Old 12-13-2019, 11:25 AM   #35
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Ouch!

Even when I was there we heard stories about GI's living on the economy and keeping their normal American electricity/heating/cooling habits. When they got their monthly bill their jaws hit the floor and thought it was some kind of mistake. It wasn't.

I really need to keep that in mind and be more diplomatic when I'm giving you guys a hard time for not upgrading. I'd be reluctant to upgrade too if I had to pay that much for energy for a whole family. In the States we can get a tax credit for solar panels and if they are wired to the grid you can sell any surplus back to the power company and your meter will go down in kW-hr.
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Due to the nationwide change to renewable energy we pay an extra on top of our already extraordinary high kW price. Many people here struggle with paying their electricity bills.
OT, but isn't a big part of the problem the decision to immediately ditch all of the nuclear power plants after that disaster in Japan (which seems a foolish thing to do without a proper alternative at hand, IMHO)?

As those have been replaced by gas and coal plants (IIRC), which doesn't sound very green and renewable, I'm probably missing proper info or the big picture here since taken like this, it altogether sounds like a bad joke.

So, I'm hoping you can correct my misconceptions on the topic with some first-hand info.
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Old 12-13-2019, 02:52 PM   #37
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Germany, or our politicians, decided to opt out oh Nuclear Power Plants way over a decade ago, long before Fukushima happened, then, as the balance shifted after elections, the tried to opt out of the opt out ( sounds like a joke ), meaning that they prolonged the time until they would be shutdown, I dont recall the exact years for either plan, then..politics changed dramatically after Fuku again and suddenly they all agreed to opt out of the opt out of the opt out. LoL.

We have a larger plan going on here, building a better power grid to distribute the renewable energy from roofs, wind mills and other sources better througout the nation and Europe.
That costs a lot of money and since businesses ( heavy industry ) are LEFT OUT in this finance plan, the end user, us, pays the bill, Its called the EEG Shifting.

We have a few nukes left, actually the world's most powerful NPP is in Bavaria as I got told in a tech video from a famous Physicist but ultimately, we will shut them all down.

The battle goes on, Cole Plants are still alive and will have to be kept alive for buffers if there is no wind during night times etc.. It aint easy but most citizens agree with the plan, despite many struggle with the kWh price, no wonder.

If it makes sense to opt out of nuke power while France and Belgium have their oldest NPP#s next to our border, time will tell.

I do know that the chances for a WCS is 1 in 25.000 years. Not much

BUT...do the math. There are over one thousand of those world wide, that is a fact, so devide 25.000 by 1000 and you get down to 1 incident every 25 years, round about the time between Tchernobyl and Fukushima...the clock ticks down again.

We are such a densely populated country, as most european countries, that we would need to evacuate millions of people if one blew up.

It's a complicated matter, we all wanna go back to nature, but most dont wanna go by pedes but in a nice car, E-car. That will again shift energy usage towards electricity, away from fossile sources. Very very complicated. If they would sell enough E-cars this whole plan goes up in smoke I goes.
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