Hunter Joker Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 La risposta del perché non ci sono aerei russi da parte di ED la da Matt Wagner stesso in questo interessante podcast https://alert5podcast.podbean.com/e/scramble-04-matt-wags-wagner/ Minuto 11.44 Per farla breve Mig e Sukhoi non permettono a una compagnia russa di farlo. Tuttavia nulla vieta alle terze parti di fare moduli russi (vedi il caso razbam) stessa cosa per l F14 che non sarebbe potuto essere realizzato da un team americano.Quindi avrei ragione, una compagnia non russa potrebbe farlo e non potrebbero dirgli niente... Inviato dal mio BLA-L09 utilizzando Tapatalk https://www.youtube.com/user/garaganotube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZioSam Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 ZioSam ha ragione Nessuna donna lo ammetterebbe...:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessuno0505 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Quindi in definitiva abbiamo molti mezzi americani perché la ED è russa. Ci vorrebbe una terza parte americana, e comincerebbero a fioccare i su-27 e i mig-29. Che poi ciò a quanto pare vale solo per i moduli full, perché gli stessi mezzi in versione fc3 sono simulabilissimi. Mah, che stranezze... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galf Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Quindi in definitiva abbiamo molti mezzi americani perché la ED è russa. Ci vorrebbe una terza parte americana, e comincerebbero a fioccare i su-27 e i mig-29. Che poi ciò a quanto pare vale solo per i moduli full, perché gli stessi mezzi in versione fc3 sono simulabilissimi. Mah, che stranezze... Beh... gli aerei FC3 ti sembrano simulati o solo abbozzati? ;) se li paragoni agli altri aerei non c'è storia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverseeker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Si ma il motore è sempre DCS ed è fatto da un'azienda russa, sarà blindato quello no? Se non vuoi che su DCS girino mezzi militari russi high fidelity blinderai legalmente la parte core (il motore grafico e tutto il resto no?) mica il resto :D 200m butterflier inside :harhar: MERLO forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessuno0505 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Comunque nel podcast Wags conferma la cosa: mig e sukhoy con la casa madre in Russia loro non li possono fare. Dice anche che se un giorno dovessero aprire una succursale con dei capi progetto fuori dalla Russia il vincolo cadrebbe, e comunque che già oggi li può fare una terza parte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Joker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Comunque nel podcast Wags conferma la cosa: mig e sukhoy con la casa madre in Russia loro non li possono fare. Dice anche che se un giorno dovessero aprire una succursale con dei capi progetto fuori dalla Russia il vincolo cadrebbe, e comunque che già oggi li può fare una terza parte.E annamo su... É così lapalissiano... É che ED pensa che vendono di più con gli aerei occidentali... Ma si sa non è che brillino a livello marketing... Inviato dal mio BLA-L09 utilizzando Tapatalk https://www.youtube.com/user/garaganotube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorcoRosso86 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 E annamo su... É così lapalissiano... É che ED pensa che vendono di più con gli aerei occidentali... Ma si sa non è che brillino a livello marketing... Inviato dal mio BLA-L09 utilizzando Tapatalk Mah joker se posso permettermi, senza voler difendere la ED, visto che sono in piedi da quasi 30 anni 2 o 3 conti li sanno fare ;) IndiaFoxtEcho Textures Artist My DCS liveries on UserFiles page here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessuno0505 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) Peraltro i loro primi due moduli full non è che fossero così remunerativi sulla carta. Chi è che preferirebbe acquistare un ka-50 o un a-10 rispetto ad un mig-29? Non che il mi-8 o l'f-5 abbiano di per sé tutto questo appeal. Già con l'f-18 ne possiamo discutere; se poi il prossimo sarà l'f-16, posso anche essere d'accordo sul discorso economico: un f-16 vende senz'altro di più. Resta il fatto che la spiegazione ufficiale lascia qualche dubbio: mig e sukhoy no, mentre kamov e mil sì? Ma poiché ED ha anche dei contratti per simulazioni di tipo militare, oltre a dcs, non escludo che il problema del non poter simulare certi mezzi risieda lì, nella tipologia di contratti con l'industria militare. P.S. poi se alcune terze parti fanno prima il mig-21 e poi, con tutti gli aerei che ci sono, scelgono il CEII, questo non è certo colpa di ED... Edited March 12, 2019 by nessuno0505 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_86z Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Mah joker se posso permettermi, senza voler difendere la ED, visto che sono in piedi da quasi 30 anni 2 o 3 conti li sanno fare ;) Ma va, bastano un paio di biglietti aerei di sola andata per gli Steits! :P Io comunque non sottovaluterei il rischio della violazione di qualche regola: avete visto cos'è successo con Al Bano, si era messo a raccogliere dati sui Fitter ucraini per fare un modulo full fidelity tra una vendemmia e l'altra, e adesso l'hanno bollato come nemico pubblico a Kiev! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorcoRosso86 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Ma va, bastano un paio di biglietti aerei di sola andata per gli Steits! :P Io comunque non sottovaluterei il rischio della violazione di qualche regola: avete visto cos'è successo con Al Bano, si era messo a raccogliere dati sui Fitter ucraini per fare un modulo full fidelity tra una vendemmia e l'altra, e adesso l'hanno bollato come nemico pubblico a Kiev! :lol::lol::lol: IndiaFoxtEcho Textures Artist My DCS liveries on UserFiles page here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorcoRosso86 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Peraltro i loro primi due moduli full non è che fossero così remunerativi sulla carta. Chi è che preferirebbe acquistare un ka-50 o un a-10 rispetto ad un mig-29? Non che il mi-8 o l'f-5 abbiano di per sé tutto questo appeal. Già con l'f-18 ne possiamo discutere; se poi il prossimo sarà l'f-16, posso anche essere d'accordo sul discorso economico: un f-16 vende senz'altro di più. Resta il fatto che la spiegazione ufficiale lascia qualche dubbio: mig e sukhoy no, mentre kamov e mil sì? Ma poiché ED ha anche dei contratti per simulazioni di tipo militare, oltre a dcs, non escludo che il problema del non poter simulare certi mezzi risieda lì, nella tipologia di contratti con l'industria militare. P.S. poi se alcune terze parti fanno prima il mig-21 e poi, con tutti gli aerei che ci sono, scelgono il CEII, questo non è certo colpa di ED... Ritengo che la tua ultima osservazione ( sui contratti militari) sia molto verosimile e probabilmente il motivo più concreto del perché di queste scelte IndiaFoxtEcho Textures Artist My DCS liveries on UserFiles page here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Joker Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Mah joker se posso permettermi, senza voler difendere la ED, visto che sono in piedi da quasi 30 anni 2 o 3 conti li sanno fare ;)In 30 anni di quasi monopolio dovevano diventare come la Blizzard Inviato dal mio BLA-L09 utilizzando Tapatalk https://www.youtube.com/user/garaganotube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorcoRosso86 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 In 30 anni di quasi monopolio dovevano diventare come la Blizzard Inviato dal mio BLA-L09 utilizzando Tapatalk Averceli avuti i loro numeri in termini di players ormai siamo in via di estinzione :( ps. Monopolio mica tanto, BMS per quasi 20 anni l'ha fatta da padrona, e nel settore warbirds Il-2 domina dai primi anni 2000. IndiaFoxtEcho Textures Artist My DCS liveries on UserFiles page here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper79 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 In 30 anni di quasi monopolio dovevano diventare come la Blizzard Inviato dal mio BLA-L09 utilizzando Tapatalk Monopolio di cosa? LOMAC per quanto era bello non se lo cagava nessuno, REGNAVA solo Falcon...piuttosto direi per fortuna è rimasta attiva così tanto... tutte le altre son sparite con l'arrivo degli anni 2000... CPU i7 9700K@5ghz | COOLER Corsair H100x | MB Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite | RAM 32GB G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200mhz | GPU MSI RTX 3070 Ti Gaming X Trio | SSD OS Samsung M.2 860 EVO 250GB / SSD DCS 860 Evo 500GB| PSU Antec HCG 850W Gold | SO Win 10 pro 64bit | MONITORS LG 27GL850/BENQ GW2780 | PERIFERICHE GAMING TrackIR 5 | Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog | MFG Crosswind + combat pedals + hydraulic damper | TM MFD Cougar | Logitech DFGT "Mai discutere con un idiota, ti trascina al suo livello e ti batte con l'esperienza" cit. Oscar Wilde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Joker Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Monopolio di cosa? LOMAC per quanto era bello non se lo cagava nessuno, REGNAVA solo Falcon...piuttosto direi per fortuna è rimasta attiva così tanto... tutte le altre son sparite con l'arrivo degli anni 2000...Quindi sono solo 20, anzi 19...allora si... Avete ragione Inviato dal mio BLA-L09 utilizzando Tapatalk https://www.youtube.com/user/garaganotube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorcoRosso86 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) Veramente falcon fino all'uscita Dell hornet aveva forse più players Ma potrei sbagliarmi Edited March 13, 2019 by PorcoRosso86 IndiaFoxtEcho Textures Artist My DCS liveries on UserFiles page here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper79 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Quindi sono solo 20, anzi 19...allora si... Avete ragione Inviato dal mio BLA-L09 utilizzando Tapatalk Non no la ED esista da trent'anni, solo non ha MAI avuto il monopolio di nulla... Falcon dominava sin dal 1998 fino ad adesso anche con l'uscita dell'hornet, anche se devo dire che tantissimi sono migrati a DCS, e molti gruppi volo basati esclusivamente su Falcon hanno chiuso o sono migrati su DCS, ma la fan base è tutt'altro che sparita e in minoranza... @Porco non ti sbagli la community di Falcon era ben più numerosa di quella di DCS. CPU i7 9700K@5ghz | COOLER Corsair H100x | MB Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite | RAM 32GB G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200mhz | GPU MSI RTX 3070 Ti Gaming X Trio | SSD OS Samsung M.2 860 EVO 250GB / SSD DCS 860 Evo 500GB| PSU Antec HCG 850W Gold | SO Win 10 pro 64bit | MONITORS LG 27GL850/BENQ GW2780 | PERIFERICHE GAMING TrackIR 5 | Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog | MFG Crosswind + combat pedals + hydraulic damper | TM MFD Cougar | Logitech DFGT "Mai discutere con un idiota, ti trascina al suo livello e ti batte con l'esperienza" cit. Oscar Wilde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phant Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 Spring Awakening as Winter is now only a memory for the most of us, we would like to share with you some news that should change dynamics of our development and give you a better understanding of our status this Spring. Earlier in March we’ve posted a teaser on Facebook, announcing to the world our next major project. It is time to explain this module in greater depth, as well as, bring some news on our other projects, primarily F4U-1D Corsair and MiG-21bis. Vought Aeronautics F-8J Crusader The F-8 Crusader revered by Naval Aviators as the ‘last of the gunfighters’ due to it’s four 20 mm Colt-Browning Mk 12 cannons, is a legendary fighter now coming to a DCS World. Conceived during the early 1950s, the F-8 Crusader was developed by Vought with a set requirements that have changed an established long ago axiom, that carrier-based aircraft could not outperform shore-based ones. The U.S. Navy wanted a fighter capable of Mach 1.2 at 30,000 ft, Mach 0.9 at sea level and a 25,000ft-per-minute rate of climb coupled with great maneuverability. The result was Vought’s Model V-383, later designated XF8U-1, enjoying all the advantages available at a time such as lightweight materials, newly developed aerodynamics, ram air turbine and a formidable armament. With the first production F8U-1 leaving Dallas plant on September 20, 1955, a new era in naval aviation had begun. The F-8 Crusader was numerically the most populous fighter in the U.S. Navy at the outbreak of Vietnam conflict. The Crusader during its time, enjoyed great success against North Vietnamese MiGs, officially being attributed with 18 enemy aircraft shot down, which represented 53 percent of all Vietnamese fighters claimed by the U.S. Navy squadrons during Rolling Thunder operation. The F-8J ‘Juliet’ in development, was the last major modification of the Crusader family, which followed ‘Echo’ version. It introduced a number of improvements, of which most noticeable is the Boundary Layer Control, providing additional lift during take-off and landing, which initially was met with mixed success caused by a variety of issues such as ramp strikes. This in turn was addressed by the engine upgrade to a Pratt & Whitney J-57-P-420, which is the engine our Crusader will feature. Furthermore, the F-8J featured the following: 4 x 20 mm Colt-Browning Mk 12 cannons in the lower forward fuselage area‘Y pylons’ enabling the fuselage stations to carry four air-to-air missiles or Zuni pods Underwing pylons Bullpup missile control systems. Despite its primary role, the F8 Crusader eventually turned out to be a capable air-to-ground platform, at one time being the only Navy fighter capable of carrying Mk 84 2,000lb bombs, one under each wing. DCS F-8J will also feature an AN/AWG-4 Fire Control System with BAT/ALE and SEAM Systems, Shoehorn ECM equipment, APX-72 IFF transponder, AN/ARC-51A Command Radio, ARN-52 (V) TACAN and many others. Having begun development of this module earlier this year, we’ve focused initially on obtaining any available technical and flight documentation as well as high quality pictures for already ongoing 3d model development. We’ve visited not so long ago the Museum of Flight in Seattle with an XF-8A on display and intend to visit more facilities such as the National Museum of Naval Aviation and Valiant Air Command Warbird Museum, to obtain a detailed pictorial documentation specific to later F-8 variants. Bye Phant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phant Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 Magnitude 3 LLC - Autumn 2019 Update Vought Aeronautics F-8J Crusader While we take a special care of MiG-21bis, we have also ramped up the development of the Vought F-8 Crusader. By this point we have gathered a substantial portion of the aircraft’s primary and secondary documentation, such as Flight Manuals, Tactical Manuals and a variety of Supplements which will later be necessary for system coding and flight model development. Furthermore, the work on the 3d model is progressing. In order to speed up the process, we have decided in the Summer to expand our team. Following that, we have recently signed a dedicated team of two fabulous artists to give our Crusader justice. At first, their focus is to produce a simplified model so that parallel work on coding can begin, while we also adjust the collision file (presented below) to ensure correct reactions in game environment. Once that chapter is complete, a work on highly detailed and final model can begin. Thus, we can say loud that we have top men working on it right now! Bye Phant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonardo_c Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 quindi ci stanno lavorando veramente. un altro vintage sarà benvenuto :) più cazzeggio con hornet e viper e più mi diverto con f-5 e 21. My DCS Campaigns - DOWNLOAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phant Posted December 23, 2019 Author Share Posted December 23, 2019 Christmas Update There’s been a lot of activity on our side these past few weeks. But since the festive season has arrived, we thought it would be a great idea, before we all take a break, to give you a small sneak peak into Santa’s workshop where all new modules are being created. Thus, this update is dedicated to our upcoming projects. Existing ones will be discussed at a different time. But before we get to that, we would like to wish you all Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. We think that this festive season is much more than Christmas parties and the gifts that keep on giving: let us take the time to slow down and enjoy the simple things. May this wonderful time of the year touch your heart in a special way. Wishing you much happiness not just today, but throughout the New Year! Vought Aeronautics F-8J Crusader Finally, an early gift! We have decided to show the very early stages of the Crusader’s cockpit. It is still a work in progress and the version shown in the renders above is strictly for our programmers to start implementing basic systems. Some assemblies may not be modeled 100%. During the course of our research, our team has come upon three modifications within the ‘J’ variant. Our goal is to model the ‘J’ to its fullest, so we have decided on airframes AFC571 and subsequent, that includes a pulse doppler function added to the search, acquisition and track modes of the APQ-124 radar. This will give users the options of using the AIM-9G Sidewinder with the new Sidewinder Extended Acquisition Mode or SEAM, a facility which slews the optics through a search pattern to acquire the target, or allows slaving of the optics to radar! Bye Phant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phant Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 Magnitude 3 LLC - Crouching Eagle, Hidden Fishbed Dear All, it’s been a while since we have posted something. The last few months were a real adventure for everyone, but as things appear to calm down we finally think now is a good time to say what was has been happening behind the door and what are we up to for the remainder of this year. First to explain our silence, it’s fair to say that although that the beginning of this year has been very productive, the unfolding of the Corona virus has affected us just as everybody else. Although our development did not slow down, some of our plans were disrupted. As much as we are used to working remotely, this quarantine time has been a bit hectic. But that also created for us opportunities to think of some new features and give additional time to existing modules. With that in mnd, we hope you all are healthy and safe and without further ado, let’s have a look at what is going on! Vought Aeronautics F-8J Crusader Similarly as with the Corsair module, another Vought creation is a few steps closer to release. The work on a proper final model and texturing for it has begun, while at the same time possession of the simplified model allows us to begin basic coding. We’ve managed to successfully go through initial implementation comprised of core files, allowing us to operate the aircraft both as an Ai unit and as player controlled. Currently we’re focusing on adding more functionalities and improving aircraft integration into the DCS World environment. Bye Phant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phant Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 2020 Christmas Update Moving on to the next Vought design, it’s final high quality external model development is progressing in a steady and encouraging manner. Many of the visual peculiarities of the design can be now distinguished. First and most obvious is the variable-incidence wing. The wing had two fixed incidence positions relative to the fuselage. A low position (retracted wing actuator) at -1 degrees for all flight conditions except landing and take-off, and the high position (fully extended wing actuator) at +7 degrees for landing and take-off. Decision to adopt this unusual solution improved vision for the pilot during the take-off and landing approach, allowing to use a smaller canopy following the lines of the fuselage instead of a more conventional large-size canopy that would cause too much drag. Out of all Chance-Vought unusual solutions, this one still appears to be the most conservative one, considering an alternative was proposed to adopt an “elevator” cockpit that moved the cockpit, pilot, canopy and windshield several inches above the normal position. The other peculiarity can be seen in the fuselage shape. Initially a very simple shape was considered but this quickly proved to be sub-optimal. In transonic flight, air pressure could increase up around the fuselage, increasing the transonic drag. The solution to this was provided by the so called principle of “area rule”, discovered in 1952 by aerospace engineer Richard Whitcomb. Area rule, more commonly known as “coking” (due to resemblance of a coke bottle) was extremely important in reducing transonic drag by pinching or changing the shape of the fuselage to allow the airflow over the wings to remain even. The areas ahead and behind the wing were the most affected ones by the application of this rule. Bye Phant Edited December 23, 2020 by phant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phant Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 Whistle While We Work Chance-Vought F-8J Crusader Since our artists are busy with the Corsair, our programmers have been working diligently on the Crusader’s radar system. While the ground mapping functionality of the AN/APQ-124 is very limited, the radar can be used for coastal mapping. Below is a zoomed in screenshot from the video, displaying major geological features from the radar’s return off the coast of Poti Harbor City in the Caucases. The Corona virus outbreak has certainly hindered our efforts for opportunities in the scanning department. But we pushed through and were able to get some photogrammetry of the cockpit. Our initial work wasn’t that far off from the real deal! Work will continue in adjusting the geometry. We hope to have some great news by next season regarding laser scans! We at Magnitude 3 want to thank everybody for the continued support and patience! We wish everyone to have a fun and safe Summer! Bye Phant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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