RagnarBSE Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 HI all, can anyone explain exact differences about HARM pre-brief mode, Too and SP? thx all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 SP (Self Protect): Launches a HARM at the highest threat indicated by the RWR. The pilot can cycle through all threats on the RWR pressing the RAID/FLIR switch to prioritze a different threat as a target for the HARM. TOO (Target of Opportunity): In this mode the HARMs own seeker is used for target selection. The pilot can cycle through all the detected emitters within the HARMs seekers field of View by pressing the RAID/FLIR switch and then hand off the selected emitter as a target to the missile by pressing the CAGE/UNCAGE switch. PB (Pre Briefed): Launches the HARM at a pre briefed target that has been marked by a waypoint which usally has been created as part of the mission preparation prior to take off. Unlike the other two modes this mode offers extended range as the location (and thus the range) of the target is known to the missile by the waypoint data and the missile can fly a more efficient loft profile. For more info see here (search for "basic operating modes"): http://www.ausairpower.net/API-AGM-88-HARM.html Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarBSE Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 SP (Self Protect): Launches a HARM at the highest threat indicated by the RWR. The pilot can cycle through all threats on the RWR pressing the RAID/FLIR switch to prioritze a different threat as a target for the HARM. TOO (Target of Opportunity): In this mode the HARMs own seeker is used for target selection. The pilot can cycle through all the detected emitters within the HARMs seekers field of View by pressing the RAID/FLIR switch and then hand off the selected emitter as a target to the missile by pressing the CAGE/UNCAGE switch. PB (Pre Briefed): Launches the HARM at a pre briefed target that has been marked by a waypoint which usally has been created as part of the mission preparation prior to take off. Unlike the other two modes this mode offers extended range as the location (and thus the range) of the target is known to the missile by the waypoint data and the missile can fly a more efficient loft profile. For more info see here (search for "basic operating modes"): http://www.ausairpower.net/API-AGM-88-HARM.html Top explanation! thx i understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarBSE Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 SP (Self Protect): Launches a HARM at the highest threat indicated by the RWR. The pilot can cycle through all threats on the RWR pressing the RAID/FLIR switch to prioritze a different threat as a target for the HARM. TOO (Target of Opportunity): In this mode the HARMs own seeker is used for target selection. The pilot can cycle through all the detected emitters within the HARMs seekers field of View by pressing the RAID/FLIR switch and then hand off the selected emitter as a target to the missile by pressing the CAGE/UNCAGE switch. PB (Pre Briefed): Launches the HARM at a pre briefed target that has been marked by a waypoint which usally has been created as part of the mission preparation prior to take off. Unlike the other two modes this mode offers extended range as the location (and thus the range) of the target is known to the missile by the waypoint data and the missile can fly a more efficient loft profile. For more info see here (search for "basic operating modes"): http://www.ausairpower.net/API-AGM-88-HARM.html is it possible then RWR not detect threat and missle seeker yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 is it possible then RWR not detect threat and missle seeker yes? In theory this is possible, if a threat emitter is within the deadzone of the RWR and within the FOV of the HARM seeker. Now I'm not sure if the Hornet RWR has any deadzones and if so where they are, so I don't know if such a situation can actually occur in the Hornet. If you're wondering what the benefit of TOO is over SP, then I can say the following: In TOO mode you get a much better impression of the distance and approximate location of the emitters in front of you than the RWR can provide. You even get a box in the HUD that shows you the location of the emitter (the box is not implemented yet). Also, in my own experience, the TOO mode has a higher probability of the missile actually hitting their target. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBamse Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) The TOO HUD-box is implemented in the latest OB (March 13th; 2.5.4.28461). It's pretty darn nice! :) Edited March 18, 2019 by TheBamse corrected build number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_mu110_ Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Most excited for pullback mode, engaging pop up SAM threats is gonna get a lot quicker. Check out my skins and mods on the User Files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 The TOO HUD-box is implemented in the latest OB (March 13th; 2.5.4.28090). It's pretty darn nice! :) You're right, I forgot that the update didn't just brought the Tomcat, but also some updates for the other modules :music_whistling: Most excited for pullback mode, engaging pop up SAM threats is gonna get a lot quicker. What's pullback mode? :huh: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gekoiq Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 You're right, I forgot that the update didn't just brought the Tomcat, but also some updates for the other modules :music_whistling: What's pullback mode? :huh: I believe pullback will automatically switch the Hornet to HARM SP mode with the threat locking you up set as the target, so all you have to do is pickle the missile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I believe pullback will automatically switch the Hornet to HARM SP mode with the threat locking you up set as the target, so all you have to do is pickle the missile. Oh, indeed :doh: Thanks! Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcrusty Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) What's pullback mode? :huh: In SP mode you can box "PLBK" (if I remember it correctly from the Super Hornet sim). All it does is prevent your HARM page popping up on your DDI when the imminent threat is detected. You might have a dedicated SEAD group in the area taking care of ground threats and if for instance your task is strike and your weapons and DDI's are set. You might be seconds away from release and... if your RWR detects a threat and "PLBK" is not boxed... your HARM is taking over your DDI config. You might be slightly pissed if this prevented you from attacking your mission target. It might be "OVRD" or something similar in "our" C/D Hornets... I have to go back and check. EDIT: simultaneous posting Edited March 18, 2019 by Gripes323 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Yeah, I know what you mean. The boxable OSD button is labeled OVRD in our Hornet IIRC. I just wasn't aware that this feature is called pullback mode :thumbup: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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