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Old 08-14-2019, 01:14 AM   #91
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The Viggen we have can pass as cold war, the plane and avionics are the same, only the weapons were improved.. or Am I wrong?
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Old 08-14-2019, 01:31 AM   #92
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If South Vietnam never had the F-5E, how did the Soviet Union get one from Vietnam after the South lost to the North?

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Old 08-14-2019, 10:56 PM   #93
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If South Vietnam never had the F-5E, how did the Soviet Union get one from Vietnam after the South lost to the North?

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Their is infact a video of the Russians testing a captured F-5E against a Mig-21, The F-5E won the fight every single time. It's a shame it wasn't adapted as a dogfighter like the F-4

Here's the link...... https://theaviationist.com/2017/06/1...american-jets/
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:12 PM   #94
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TBH I'd rather see Central Europe (East and West Germany, Czechoslovakia and Poland) instead of Vietnam. I'm pretty sure the only Vietnam era aircraft we have are MiG-19 and F-5E, though I'm not sure if the variant of F-5E we have is the one flown by South Vietnam. The MiG-21bis has not been used in Vietnam War.
This, so much. The F-5E we have, however, was not exported to South Vietnam

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A few other points.
South Vietnam never flew the F5E, they had the A (no radar). And it was developed after the VN war (just like the mig21bis).

The viggen we have is not the Cold war version. Rather a mid/late 90's version. So too modern for the cold war.
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http://www.the-northrop-f-5-enthusia...SouthF-5E.html <- Aircraft serials.
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:29 AM   #95
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Their is infact a video of the Russians testing a captured F-5E against a Mig-21, The F-5E won the fight every single time. It's a shame it wasn't adapted as a dogfighter like the F-4

Oh but it is
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:07 PM   #96
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This, so much. The F-5E we have, however, was not exported to South Vietnam



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http://www.the-northrop-f-5-enthusia...amSouthAF.html

http://www.the-northrop-f-5-enthusia...SouthF-5E.html <- Aircraft serials.
I stand corrected. Looks like they got 20 some right before the end. But it doesn't sound like they were used much in combat.
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:10 PM   #97
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The Viggen we have can pass as cold war, the plane and avionics are the same, only the weapons were improved.. or Am I wrong?
The Ternav was a mid 90's avionics upgrade. A rather significant one for all weapons delivery/navigation calcs. Other than that the BK90, the RB15, And maybe the later RB24J were 90's upgrades. So I'd say it "sorta" fits, but purists will point out that the INS system is rather important.
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:26 PM   #98
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We do not need again a new map, but a functional, mature Mig. Not always something new, it just annoying!
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We do not need again a new map, but a functional, mature Mig. Not always something new, it just annoying!
A fully functional mature MiG would be something new! The MiG-21 is one of my all-time favorite aircraft and this implementation is already the best that I have ever flown on a PC simulation. But it has several obvious flaws. In terms of flight model and systems functionality, I almost like the original release more than later versions. For me, most of the remaining flaws are centered on the gunsight functionality. The patches have sometimes changed the behavior, but never get it right, usually fix or improve one thing but break another. Having a canopy that matches museum examples that have been sitting out in the weather for decades absolutely sucks. Surely, MiG-21bis aircraft flying from the early 1970s to the mid 1980s didn't have severely dirty canopies with sloppy gummed up periscope seals.

As a MiG-21 fan, I would love to see as many versions as possible: MiG-21F-13, MiG-21PF, MiG-21PFMA, MiG-21MF, etc. Each one has unique characteristics as the availability of guns, missiles, gunsight/avionics, fuel, weight, engine power, flaps, canopy, tail/rudder etc. vary over time. Winning a dogfight in an early MiG-21 that has no gun and only two early AA-2/K-13 Atoll missiles with limited visibility out of the cockpit is probably harder than winning with early F-4 variants. The MiG-21bis has all the power, but isn't nearly as agile as early variants, particularly the MiG-21F, which is really an agile day fighter compared to the competition with only range-only radar, but has a gun and a decent view from the cockpit.
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