DW2020 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 I am brand new to DCS and having problems with taxiing to take off. when I try to move the aircraft to the runway it wobbles allover the place to the point where it falls on its side! if I make it to the runway and start to increase throttle to takeoff space it ALWAYS falls over! My startup routine: Electrics ON NAV Lights ON Canopy Close Right Engine START – run up to 50 Left Engine START What have I missed? Rotation at 130-150 knots GEAR UP - yeah that IS optimistic as I never get off the ground!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) when I try to move the aircraft to the runway it wobbles allover the place to the point where it falls on its side! if I make it to the runway and start to increase throttle to takeoff space it ALWAYS falls over! You're to fast on taxi, as Nikola said, stay slow. F-15 has quite narrowly placed mains so it's easy to crash on fast corner. On take off roll you have to use the rudder to make small corrections to stay straight on the runway. What hardware controls do you use? What have I missed?Taxi and anti-collision lights Flaps extended before the take off run Edited February 27, 2020 by draconus Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Yes, it's rare for the aircraft to be perfectly balanced lateraly. That, engines and wind together will challenge you following straight line. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 ... My startup routine: Electrics ON NAV Lights ON Canopy Close Right Engine START – run up to 50 Left Engine START What have I missed? I used a more involved startup procedure, to increase immersion if nothing else :) .. perhaps you may find it useful: https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ai6cuX3YQI26hqUxVfRSQdqiqaUr_g?e=YTjPlB .. I'm sure it will be overkill for some people :D cheers. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnar81 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 I am brand new to DCS and having problems with taxiing to take off. when I try to move the aircraft to the runway it wobbles allover the place to the point where it falls on its side! if I make it to the runway and start to increase throttle to takeoff space it ALWAYS falls over! My startup routine: Electrics ON NAV Lights ON Canopy Close Right Engine START – run up to 50 Left Engine START What have I missed? Rotation at 130-150 knots GEAR UP - yeah that IS optimistic as I never get off the ground!! Like the above folks are saying, you need to make very small adjustments to the rudder while taking off. I find the F-15 to be one of the harder aircraft to keep straight at takeoff. Keep practice and you’ll get it :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW2020 Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 Thanks to everyone for your replies. I need to be a bit more patient, take my time and practise practise practise!! I should have chosen a smaller aircraft I guess as the Eagle is a big old bugger!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Don't worry, in no time you'll rule the sky. Eagle is great as a first aircraft and easy to master. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rinkerbuck Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 You think the F15 is easy to tip hahah, try the SU25t with full load out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gee Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I used a more involved startup procedure, to increase immersion if nothing else :) .. perhaps you may find it useful: https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ai6cuX3YQI26hqUxVfRSQdqiqaUr_g?e=YTjPlB .. I'm sure it will be overkill for some people :D cheers. Rudel, do you have more of those very handy .pdf's it looks like you made for reference? That one is outstanding, had to print it out. "These are NOT 1 to 1 replicas of the real aircraft, there are countless compromises made on each of them" - Senior ED Member Modules - Damn near all of them (no Christian Eagle or Yak) System - i7-12700K, 64Gig DDR4 3200 RAM, RTX-3080, 3 32" monitors at 5760 x 1080, default settings of High (minor tweaks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Rudel, do you have more of those very handy .pdf's it looks like you made for reference? That one is outstanding, had to print it out. I have a few, but most are for the Study aircrafts, not FC3. For example, this is for the MiG-19: https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ai6cuX3YQI26hYZ0GOATKDqV1Znk1w The info is mostly from the Manual and Chuck’s Guides, but I wanted something formatted for the Kneeboard and as short as possible while still being fairly complete :) Best regards For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW2020 Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 With some help from a buddy of mine we found what the problem was and it is the fact that the rudder is permanently pulling to the right! Tried 2 different joysticks and sane result but when we remapped the rudder to Z and X I had no problems on the ground and with some guidance I was able to take off finally. Hmmm now how to fix that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Hmmm now how to fix that..... Fix what? The answer is post #2. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW2020 Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 Check your axes in controls. Use RCTRL + ENTER overlay to check whether they are assigned correctly. Check your taxi speed. Up to 30kts on straights and less than 10kts on 90 degree turns is standard in aviation.Checked this and yes keeping speed low on taxing to runway but I still have the same problem when using the twist on the joystick for rudder but all fine when I use Z and X on keyboard instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW2020 Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 Fix what? The answer is post #2.Answered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gee Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I have a few, but most are for the Study aircrafts, not FC3. For example, this is for the MiG-19: https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ai6cuX3YQI26hYZ0GOATKDqV1Znk1w The info is mostly from the Manual and Chuck’s Guides, but I wanted something formatted for the Kneeboard and as short as possible while still being fairly complete :) Best regards I've done my own for my study planes...text only...for my RL kneeboard on 5" by 8" index cards. Just hadn't thought about FC3 ones until seeing yours. "These are NOT 1 to 1 replicas of the real aircraft, there are countless compromises made on each of them" - Senior ED Member Modules - Damn near all of them (no Christian Eagle or Yak) System - i7-12700K, 64Gig DDR4 3200 RAM, RTX-3080, 3 32" monitors at 5760 x 1080, default settings of High (minor tweaks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I've done my own for my study planes...text only...for my RL kneeboard on 5" by 8" index cards. Just hadn't thought about FC3 ones until seeing yours. :) ... found this one that I did a year ago, for the MiG-29: https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ai6cuX3YQI26hLVpVmBXAVKlvVrCdw?e=81fCyb I've others too, but as most are for my personal use the format is not as good and most are on my native language, like this one: https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ai6cuX3YQI26g_gfH_pzXzG4gRIAsA?e=MeeYmF I like to write these while I'm learning a plane, the newest is this one for the JF-17 that is the aircraft that I'm flying since January :) https://1drv.ms/b/s!Ai6cuX3YQI26hoF8d8bVZTE_OcBBLg?e=6RkOOQ Nowadays I try to write them in english, as I see them being shared someday. Cheers, Eduardo For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draconus Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 With some help from a buddy of mine we found what the problem was and it is the fact that the right! Go to Controls > F-15C. Choose Axis category. Check that the rudder is binded only to your twist (only in one column). Also make sure the twist is not binded to anything else. While you are in the axis menu you can test how it reacts to joystick and throttle movement. Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX3060 Rift S T16000M TWCS TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schafft Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 The info is mostly from the Manual and Chuck’s Guides, but I wanted something formatted for the Kneeboard and as short as possible while still being fairly complete :) Best regards How do you load this into the game to use it for the kneeboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudel_chw Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 How do you load this into the game to use it for the kneeboard? I use the Kneeboard Builder utility: http://www.dcskneeboardbuilder.com/ For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600X - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia GTX1070ti - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar - Oculus Rift CV1 Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts