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Old 02-27-2020, 10:56 AM   #41
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Maybe electric starter is dead too.
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Old 02-27-2020, 11:44 AM   #42
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Immediately after a repair? No.
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Old 02-27-2020, 01:14 PM   #43
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Then that would be the bug, starter not being repaired when you request repair. Question is, how does it get broken?

Last night I landed a damaged Spitfire and repaired it and took off again with no problems. The only damage it had was the rudder was shot off by flack during a ground attack and the pilot required a change of pants. (New FLAK sounds are loud) So there was little chance that the starter had been hit.

Maybe we can set up an experiment shooting a Spitfire in different places and running a repair to see if it works, maybe the stater is the Spitfires prop governor.
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Old 02-27-2020, 03:33 PM   #44
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Then that would be the bug, starter not being repaired when you request repair. Question is, how does it get broken?

Last night I landed a damaged Spitfire and repaired it and took off again with no problems. The only damage it had was the rudder was shot off by flack during a ground attack and the pilot required a change of pants. (New FLAK sounds are loud) So there was little chance that the starter had been hit.

Maybe we can set up an experiment shooting a Spitfire in different places and running a repair to see if it works, maybe the stater is the Spitfires prop governor.
My question is why battery isn't replaced after repairing plane ?, If ground crew is capable of repairing almost all damage why they did not replace battery, that is so so stupid
If they cant replace battery , so they are capable of not repairing starter too
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Immediately after a repair? No.
Why are you so sure about that ?
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Old 02-27-2020, 04:55 PM   #46
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Because ground power not powering starter is a bug. Would there be two bugs? Less likely.

I'm fishing for BIGNEWY input. I made the case as simple as I could, a page back.
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Old 02-28-2020, 09:18 AM   #47
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Because ground power not powering starter is a bug. Would there be two bugs? Less likely.

I'm fishing for BIGNEWY input. I made the case as simple as I could, a page back.
Why are you so sure that starter is repaired ? When battery is not.
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Repair should fix everything, should refill coolant oil oxygen, battery, fix broken stuff.
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Old 02-28-2020, 02:04 PM   #49
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Why are you so sure that starter is repaired ? When battery is not.
a) Again, because the known bug (ground power) already explains the behavior.
b) And ... it makes no sense "repairing" each part separately. They'll just spawn a new aircraft (keeping fuel levels *1).

Did an experiment, the P-51 does not recharge/replace battery on repair.
-I damaged the P-51 a little (swinging ass into a jeep)
-shut off engine and drained it's battery
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-P-51 battery was dead before repair and remained dead after repair (but startable with ground power)

Assuming the Spitfire works the same, does not recharge/replace battery over repair, a drained battery would make it unstartable (and ground power is bugged).

*1) "Interesting" difference between Spitfire and P-51 repair. The P-51 returns to ambient oil and coolant temps after repair. The Spitfire retains oil and coolant temps over repair.

This thread is 10 times longer than it needs to be. But I'm sure BIGNEWY loves sifting through long threads in bug reporting Again, reference to my post where I presented the ground power bug as simple as I could.
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Old 02-28-2020, 06:51 PM   #50
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I will add that oxygen tank is not replaced or refueled in repairs nor in refueling which should be addressed by one of this procedures i think.
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