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Old 05-24-2019, 08:53 AM   #21
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Yeah, you can do funny things with that old gameport stuff, I rebuilt my TQS for another Sim with a Bodnar board and added some switches and axes, I even made a working throttle release handle and detent, of course it is not flipping like the original throttle, but it is functional ....the cursor control is replaced with a PS thumbstick and precise this way.


Any way you can provide a little more info on the lever mod here? I’ve long been interested in modding my Cougar to achieve better idle/AB detents but wouldn’t know where to start.


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Old 05-24-2019, 09:18 PM   #22
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I kept my HOTAS Cougar throttle in the hope that one day we would get the F-16 in DCS, I just need to get the Realsimulator USB adaptor. Surely Thrustmaster still has the tooling and moulds to make a USB modern version of the TQS? The HOTAS Warthog stick is close enough.
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Old 05-24-2019, 10:16 PM   #23
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I kept my HOTAS Cougar throttle in the hope that one day we would get the F-16 in DCS, I just need to get the Realsimulator USB adaptor. Surely Thrustmaster still has the tooling and moulds to make a USB modern version of the TQS? The HOTAS Warthog stick is close enough.
I'm sure the molds exist, but getting them to just do the Hornet stick has been an exercise in frustration.

I'd sooner be able to lodge a piece of coal in my ass and squeeze it into a diamond before they actually take the bull by the horns and do the F-16 throttle again.
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Old 05-24-2019, 10:30 PM   #24
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It will be easier to find Cougar and mod it. Sure wish I had kept my old one.
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It will be easier to find Cougar and mod it. Sure wish I had kept my old one.
I wish my old one hadn't crapped out...period
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Old 05-24-2019, 11:53 PM   #26
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The Warthog is definitely better. We just need a better throttle for the Viper. I'm not holding my breath for one considering how long the Hornet stick is taking.
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So with low to no supply and high demand, now is a good time to be selling a HOTAS Cougar.
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:30 AM   #28
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Any way you can provide a little more info on the lever mod here? I’ve long been interested in modding my Cougar to achieve better idle/AB detents but wouldn’t know where to start.


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OK, I try to explain, but it´s difficult to get the correct technical terms in English. It´s all improvised with DIY superstore and bicycle parts. The whole TQS body is fixed on one of my WheelStandPro bases, in the middle of the TQS side cover there is a simple bolt (for wooden doors...) fixed ( position of all parts improvised , just trial and error), the spring of that bolt keeps it downwards. I cut a kid-bicylce brake lever into parts and made a cable of some (trial and error) length, which is simply attached to the bolt by a green fence wire. If you pull the shortened brake lever, the bolt comes up. The detents are put on the base plate with instant adhesive, meanwhile I improved the metal stop for the AB detent with a bigger, ascending metal block. I fixed these detents (always trial and error) at a position, that you cant´t go to cutoff position without pulling the brake lever (cutoff release), but you can go over MIL to AB, by just kicking forward over that metal block. The resistance is much better than that small plastic noses which are integrated in the TQS by Thrustmaster.


Well, in XXX Sim it was possible to make the right settings, where the TQS throttle meets MIL and cutoff position, you even could make settings for hardware only cutoff position. I didn´t have seen that complexity for DCS settings, so I have to look, how the detents and positions are manageable with DCS Vipers. I hope that helps....
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:55 PM   #29
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Thanks for the reply! I'll have to give something like that a try with my Obutto. How did you mount the brake lever (and the cable holder on the right) to the TQS body? Glue to the plastic surface?

I ask because mounting on a metal Cougar might require a different method. I'm thinking bolts run through and tightened down with nuts.

Lastly, what is the clamp that you attached the brake line to the green wire with?



EDIT: I wonder if this is enough to get this done. Need to figure out brake-to-wire attachment though.
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Old 05-26-2019, 12:25 AM   #30
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Since ifly various aircraft, and not a single aircraft, i feel it would be unpractical to buy an exact replica of say a warthog, if i am flying an F/A18, and will also be purchasing the Viper., and still occasionally flying other aircaft including those from earlier eras.

becuase the F/A18 has a totally different HOTAS than the Warthog, Warthog stick is similar to the F16 stick, but contains totally different throttle.

So i figure i may as well buy a new 1 size fits all HOTAS that isnt a replica of an exact HOTAS.


I currently have X55 Hotas, no complaints, but i was thinking of upgraded to a X56 because its largely the same, but has additional functions like the TDC cursor on the front of the throttle ( similar to Hornet) as well as a 4 way switch on the Flight stick which could be mapped for Countermeasures functions if flying F16 or if piloting a a Hornet mapped asn A/A weapon selector.


Would X56 be recomended? X65F looks pretty similar too?

X56 seems to have mediocre ( 3 to 3 and half stars) reviews due to some people having supposed quality control issues, or wear issues, , but my X55 sorta had the same reviews, although mine still works fine.
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