7rooper Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Just today I had the opportunity to try the new Su-27 PFM and my rudder pedals but to my surprise I couldn't find a wheel brake axis to be bound to my pedals toe brakes just like in the F-15. Is this a bug or the Su-27 doesn´t feature an analog or left/right differential brakes? My rig specs: Intel Core i7 4770 @3.4Ghz // Corsair 16GB DDR3 // MoBo Asus Z87K // HDD 1TB 7200RPM // eVGA Nvidia GTX 760GT 2GB DDR5 // LG 3D 47" 1920x1080 // Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS // Saitek Combat Pro Pedals // Thrustmaster MFD Cougar pack // PS3 Eye + FTNOIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 It's not a bug. It was designed with a brake handle, no toe-brakes (Actually they had the diff-toe-brakes in prototypes, but the pilots told them to go back to brake-handle) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzila Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Does brake handle have an axis or is it simple button with full on-full off effect? I ask for real airplane, not the way it is currently modeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7rooper Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 Thank you! Now I see how different russian planes are designed I'm really having great time with this PFM. It's really exciting and makes feel the F-15 kinda boring.. My rig specs: Intel Core i7 4770 @3.4Ghz // Corsair 16GB DDR3 // MoBo Asus Z87K // HDD 1TB 7200RPM // eVGA Nvidia GTX 760GT 2GB DDR5 // LG 3D 47" 1920x1080 // Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS // Saitek Combat Pro Pedals // Thrustmaster MFD Cougar pack // PS3 Eye + FTNOIR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 It would be much like the brakes on your car. Full-on effect means overheating brakes, destroyed tyres etc ... not economical. Does brake handle have an axis or is it simple button with full on-full off effect? I ask for real airplane, not the way it is currently modeled. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highwayman-Ed Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Presumably that brake handle is analog though, so an axis should be available, or is it just on / off and the avionics brake the aircraft within limits? I know it's still beta, but it's pretty fundamental. Intel i9-9900KF @5.2GHz MSI Z390 Gaming Pro Carbon 32GB G.Skill Trident Z DDR3200 RAM MSI RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio 40" Panasonic TH-40DX600U @ 4K Pimax Vision 8K Plus / Oculus Rift CV1 / HTC Vive Gametrix JetSeat with SimShaker Windows 10 64 Bit Home Edition [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) Correction to the above statements - Toe-Brakes were introduced with the Su-27 and are a W.I.P., ie they are coming. Herewith excerpt of a Marine test-pilot's commentary after a ride in a UB: Marine test pilot checks out an old adversary .....Having also flown the MiG-15, -21 and -29, I immediately noticed that the Su-27’s cockpit displayed a generational leap in human factors and an abidance with industry convention. Gone was the single hand-brake lever on the control stick for normal braking in favour of individual toe brakes....... Edited November 18, 2014 by 159th_Viper Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sov13t Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 (edited) The SU-27 is equipped with both pedal actuated brakes (main braking) and stick mounted brake (start brakes) of course there is an emergency braking system as well. The difference is the pedal actuated brakes provide 105-120 kg/cm2 pressure and can be used for differential braking, while the start brakes provide 175-220 kg/cm2 pressure allowing to hold the aircraft still at higher engine RPMs applied uniformly across the two main wheels. Edited November 18, 2014 by Sov13t 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 51st PVO Regiment | Forum | Statistics DCS: MiG-21Bis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin_Hood Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Good to know. Is there no nosegear brake like there is on the MiG-21bis? Only the two main gear? 2nd French Fighter Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sport02 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 on my saitek rudder pedals it's not easy to brake and turn in maximum level at the same times, as russian pilot :laugh: I prefer brake on the stick even if this one is not an axis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kurr Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Good to know. Is there no nosegear brake like there is on the MiG-21bis? Only the two main gear? AFAIK the Su-27 only has brakes on the main gear. Dutch Flanker Display Team | LLTM 2010 Tiger Spirit Award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EAKMotorsports Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I think the Cy-27 have 3 wheel brake. the lever on front of the stick is for the front wheel and the toe brakes are for the other wheels. Intel® Core™ i5-2500k CPU@4.20GHz 64 bit operation System Windows 10+ Pro NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 - Memory: 16.0 GB - 500gb ssd samsung - Samsung 27"SyncMaster TA550 monitors [SIZE=1][B]- [/B][/SIZE][FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]TM Hotas Warthog[/SIZE][/FONT] Trackir4 - TM Rudder Pedals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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