Zabuzard Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Did anyone notice yet that the RB-04 (anti-ship missiles) actually hop over ships in group mode? Just realized this as I flew the mini campaign where I used them against multiple ships for the first time: I mean, just take a look at those trails, it's hilarious :lol: It actually makes sense but I never thought about it before. Edited March 19, 2018 by Zabuza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BravoYankee4 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Never heard about that before... Strange. A bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) Isn't this the so called terminal popup maneuver? :D In the final seconds before striking the ship, some anti-ship missiles engage in sudden pop-up maneuvers, or similar juking patterns, in order to confuse ship defenses. The Harpoon pops up and then dives into the ship. The Penguin, Norwegian Naval Strike Missile, and LRASM have similar features. https://www.quora.com/What-do-anti-ship-missiles-do-differently-from-other-missiles :P Edit: Actually, after watching the video a second time and paying closer attention, it does indeed look like they are performing the terminal pop up maneuver. My comment was supposed to be a joke first, because I thought it's a single missile that is hopping over ships, but now I see that these are multiple missiles, performing a single popup maneuver each. Are they doing this only in group mode? Edited March 19, 2018 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 The RB15 is doing that on the horizontal plane to dodge the ship's air defenses.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarDa Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I assume those are Rb-04 (for AI) fired by AI airplanes? If so they do that because that’s the standard behavior of anti-ship missiles in DCS. Rb04 fired by a player airplane won’t do that because it has custom behavior, it would work as the real Rb04 then. DCS AJS37 HACKERMAN There will always be bugs. If everything is a priority nothing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) I assume those are Rb-04 (for AI) fired by AI airplanes? If so they do that because that’s the standard behavior of anti-ship missiles in DCS. Rb04 fired by a player airplane won’t do that because it has custom behavior, it would work as the real Rb04 then. Makes sense, thanks! The RB-04 did not have this feature IRL AFAIK, but what about the RBS-15? Is it really making horizontal terminal maneuvers IRL? Edited March 19, 2018 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Is there not a way to control or code the same behavior of human RB-04 missiles for the AI? I mean having terminal popup maneuver in the regular ones would make it cool as well, it did confuse me at first. Changing the behaviour of AI missiles is something that has to be done by ED themselves I presume. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagnarDa Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Yes, Rb15 do left or right turn in terminal phase IRL. DCS AJS37 HACKERMAN There will always be bugs. If everything is a priority nothing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zabuzard Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 Yes, those where AI fired RB-04. Mine didn't hop (they hit the target in the top-right corner). Interesting, thanks for the info :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 From here: http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/rbs15-mk3-surface-to-surface-missile-ssm/ RBS15 Mk3 guidance system The RBS15 guidance and control system includes an inertial navigation system and a GPS receiver, a radar altimeter and a Ku-band radar target seeker. The RBS15 missiles are resistant of enemy countermeasures. Two or more missiles can be programmed to hit the target simultaneously from various directions to better penetrate the air defences of warships. The missile features low radar cross section and IR signature. It has sophisticated target discrimination and selection capabilities. It is extremely resistant to chaff, active jammers, decoys and other electronic countermeasures (ECM). The RBS15 Mk3 is a low sea-skimming missile performing unpredictable evasive manoeuvres. The missile increases its thrust in the terminal phase to defeat missiles, guns and close-in weapon systems (CIWS). The missile engagement planning system (MEPS) provides advanced user interface for generating plans for different scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitrischal Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 From here: http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/rbs15-mk3-surface-to-surface-missile-ssm/ I’m not sure if it’s the mk3 we have in the game though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 It's out of topic here, but I think you are right, it's the rb15f and its probably the mk I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiGon Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Thanks guys, that's good to know. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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