toby23 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 With the Spitfire now out of Early Access, is the P11 compass going to get a lubber line so that we can navigate with it and use it to set the correct heading before take-off? Refer to this image of a real P11 and the (fixed) lubber line at 340'. - I originally posted a reply to a two year old post here about this in the Bugs section but I think that's been forgotten and hope that this request might get a response here. Ryzen 5800X, 32GB RAM, RTX 3060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toby23 Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Bump - can anyone comment on this or am I the only person who wants to navigate in the Spitfire? Ryzen 5800X, 32GB RAM, RTX 3060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vino Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Whats the point of lubber line? I mean, that is not the direction of the plane... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toby23 Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 You align the T over the + and the lubber line shows your current heading, without it, the compass is useless. Ryzen 5800X, 32GB RAM, RTX 3060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vino Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Yes, I know how to operate Spits compass, but I still can't figure out the point of this "lubber line". You mean the line at 340'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toby23 Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) yes, it is fixed and shows your heading when you align the T over the + Edited July 17, 2018 by toby23 Ryzen 5800X, 32GB RAM, RTX 3060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vino Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Ah, I did not notice that the compass was not straight. Sorry, I feel stupid! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vino Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I have used that line (see the picture) to determine my heading. It seems to point the right direction... :joystick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toby23 Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 that is not a lubber line, that is a lucky coincidence. Ryzen 5800X, 32GB RAM, RTX 3060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzZoo Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 toby have you read the manual? This version of the spit has the P.8.M, quoting from the manual: "Under the glass is the lubber line - a thin wire..." Exactly as Vino posted, that thin wire IS the lubber line. Also refer to Chuck's guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toby23 Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) Thanks BuzZoo, I have read the manual but it still appears that a clear line is missing. How are you supposed to naviagte at night without a 'glow' line to follow? It's hard enough to see that dark needle during the day.. Below are pictures of a real P.8.M for reference, look at the bright white 'glow' line at North adn 30' respectively. Unless I'm mistaken, that's the lubber line. On our version, there are no 'glow' markings, which makes it hard to navigate. Thanks for the RTFM tip, at least I got the model correct now. Edited July 18, 2018 by toby23 Ryzen 5800X, 32GB RAM, RTX 3060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzZoo Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 No worries toby. I must admit, I have no idea about any of the compass being expected to glow and therefore be functional at night. I've never really even dabbled with the spit at night, the closest I've gotten is when a multiplayer server first goes up at dawn and I need the left and right flood to start the engine etc. I really need that sun to anything worthwhile though to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornetjock Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Geeez...to land a Spit in daylight is bad enough - but a night? Impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sokol1_br Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) toby23 The P11 Lubber Line is there but wrongly turning with Course Setter Scale, so don't serve as reference line. In this Mk.IX the compass 3D has a fixed vertical pin under Lubber Line position that serves as "workaround". Looks that in these days most (WWII) players fly by "GPS" and don't care if this compass is not "real" as should. :) Anyway fix this require 3D work. On release I point this error in bugs section - but the topic was market "no error"... :huh: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=179030 toby have you read the manual? This version of the spit has the P.8.M, quoting from the manual: "Under the glass is the lubber line - a thin wire..." Exactly as Vino posted, that thin wire IS the lubber line. Also refer to Chuck's guide. No, P8/11 Compass Lubber Line is part of compass bow on horizontal - see the drawing for manual in the picture, not a vertical pin in compass dial background like in Mk.IX (this seems a "add-hoc" modification): https://s8.postimg.cc/z7xy3b8qd/P8_Compass_Lubber_line_1.jpg There in ATAG an guy disassemble a real P-8 and model in 3D - including the correct Lubber Line. :) https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23919&highlight=lubber+line BTW - On "small errors" - T.R. 1134 remote panel operation is not correct for Spitfire - is correct for P-51. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=179406 Edited July 23, 2018 by Sokol1_br Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toby23 Posted July 23, 2018 Author Share Posted July 23, 2018 Thanks Sokol, I appreciate your input. I have a lot of respect for your knowledge over the years. I will stick with my Kuban career for now and hope that this will be fixed one day. Meanwhile I wait patiently for my WarBRD and T-50 grip... Ryzen 5800X, 32GB RAM, RTX 3060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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