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Old 11-03-2018, 12:15 PM   #1
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Exclamation MiG-29S RADAR RANGE Bug Report

Please ED can you change the radar values of the MiG-29S, to match the reality compliant for a simulation game?

MiG-29A
MiG-29G

N019E "Rubin"
Range*: ~ 70km
Azimuth angle scan: -60°/+60° <120°
Elevation angle scan: +56°/-36° <92°



MiG-29S

N019M "Topaz"
Range*: ~ 90km
Azimuth angle scan: -65°/+65° <130°
Elevation angle scan: +60°/-38° <98°






* Effective detection range in the best conditions on a fighter "HOT":
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Old 11-08-2018, 01:21 PM   #2
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:57 PM   #3
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Pardon me for saying this. But I don't think posts like these is going to get you the result you are looking for.
If you know something is not right, provide documentation for how it should be IRL, and the devs will then have a look, to decide if they are able to change it. Sometimes it's not possible to model something completely like it is IRL, because of sensitive or classified information.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:07 PM   #4
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Sometimes it's not possible to model something completely like it is IRL, because of sensitive or classified information.
Exactly, IIRC Wags more or less said in some of the recent streams that they will miss RL performance on porpuse - something like we model as close as we are comfortable - due to legal restriction
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:13 PM   #5
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Since this info seems to be readily available (else how would Satarosa know), it would be nice if this could be implemented as such.

So +1 from me.

I don't see how a few changed parameters as shown in OP's post would fall into the classified/sensitive realm all of a sudden.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:59 PM   #6
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I am military and I can tell you that it is classified or not, there are dozens of websites, US, Russian and many other countries they will give you the values of its old radar!

I think that with a little research anyone can find the same informations, I do not see why I should also copy all the existing sources dealing with this subject, and all PDF manuals of this radar..

but good for your information also some sources:

https://forum.keypublishing.com/foru...-1960s-present

https://gdziewojsko.wordpress.com/lo...rewicz-mig-29/

https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/r...9s-fulcrum-c-/

https://www.ciudadfutura.com/mig-29-terror-la-otan/

https://51escadrongriffon.com/index....avions-jouable

http://toad-design.com/migalley/inde...29-n019-radar/

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Old 11-08-2018, 11:37 PM   #7
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I'm not the one who wants evidence, I'm just telling you how things usually works on these forums.
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Old 11-09-2018, 08:08 AM   #8
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Ok thank you so much.

Hope DEV Will inprove the radar of MiG-29S. And not juste copy past the radar value from MiG-29 À..
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Old 11-09-2018, 11:36 AM   #9
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I got to say, im having a tough time getting any range out of it. I can understand the A model being fairly poor, but even the S model with an upgraded radar its tough to find anything in BVR mode much beyond 15 klicks. I know about the range gate and the different radar modes, but it still feels difficult to get any decent range or BVR capability out of it.


Maybe this is perhaps a case for less including a modification to the radar, than perhaps a dedicated training mission for the Mig29? Id happily pay for a good training campaign for it if ED produced one.
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Old 11-09-2018, 02:04 PM   #10
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My suggestion is to keep it simple.

Use the BVR radar mode (2) and don't touch anything, unless you are looking for a target that is very high or very low compared to your position. Listen to the GCI or AWACS to narrow down the target area. MiG29 has not a big search radar like the F-15C or F/A-18C Hornet.

If you know what you are doing, and the enemy is closing head-on, you can set the radar-scan to High Prf to pick up targets att a longer range.

Reversed from IRL, the EOS system on the MiG29 is actually really good in DCS. I usually alternate between radar and EOS. No luck with the radar? Switch to the EOS for a minute.
Once locked up in EOS you can tap the radar on button quickly to make an IFF of the locked contact.

If all else fails, despite your close to enemies. Go vertical scan (3) and keep pressing that lock button like a madman while turning in an 360 arc (if you don't now where the threat is).
Also keep a good eye on your RWR. It looks a bit oldschool tech but can really help you get pointed in the right direction.

If you are going against Amraam opponents such like the F-15C, get low and behind cover (if possible) You want to close the distance as much as possible.

Another tactic is by running low and sneaky, only using your EOS and the R27ET IR missile to sneak up on unassuming bandits. You should obviusly keep your jammer off to keep a stealthy appearance.

But on the whole, think about the MiG29 as a good dogfighter or a point interceptor, you mostly need to get close to the targets to have the advantage, hopefully with some guidance of AWACS or GCI.

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