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Hey gents,

 

I know the community will probably roast me for asking, but its going to happen any way. I am super thrilled about the Tomcat coming out but do you think we could have an update on the deck crew and how well those assests are coming along? Even if its just a teaser? I have longed for a proper aircraft carrier in a flight sim for many years now and I know you guys are going to deliver.

 

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The next video from Wags will show some carrier updates. Both RAZBAM and Heatblur are contributing. Updates are coming often nowadays, so you already know what the appropriate answer is.

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The next video from Wags will show some carrier updates. Both RAZBAM and Heatblur are contributing. Updates are coming often nowadays, so you already know what the appropriate answer is.

 

Really? I thought he just make a island hoping around the new map?

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Animations for ground crew is already partially done.

 

Indeed, last week Razbam posted this.

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The next video from Wags will show some carrier updates. Both RAZBAM and Heatblur are contributing. Updates are coming often nowadays, so you already know what the appropriate answer is.

 

You say they are contributing, which implies they are all working on the same tech, but my impression is, that all three (ED, Heatblur, RAZBAM) are working on their own seperate implementation of flight deck crews.

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You say they are contributing, which implies they are all working on the same tech, but my impression is, that all three (ED, Heatblur, RAZBAM) are working on their own seperate implementation of flight deck crews.

 

That's my take as well, but I don't know if that's the case.

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That's my take as well, but I don't know if that's the case.

I hope I'm wrong. That would be a waste of ressources and makes things more complicated later.

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Indeed, last week Razbam posted this.

Seem like they lowered the quality of the crew member from the original forum post. They probably had to because the quality of the original crew member was too detailed. Probably killed the fps.

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Seem like they lowered the quality of the crew member from the original forum post. They probably had to because the quality of the original crew member was too detailed. Probably killed the fps.

 

I think you're mixing with Heathblur

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I think you're mixing with Heathblur

yup :doh: :)


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I hope I'm wrong. That would be a waste of ressources and makes things more complicated later.

 

I agree, but its a logical assumption that the animated deck crew will be part of the the hi-res carriers purchase. That said, would not the program code be proprietary to some degree? Otherwise RAZBAM would have the TPOD from the A-10 and be done with it. It seems to me that each company is responsible for themselves and their modules, unless a specific partnership is arranged. Such as the case with the F-18.

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I agree, but its a logical assumption that the animated deck crew will be part of the the hi-res carriers purchase. That said, would not the program code be proprietary to some degree? Otherwise RAZBAM would have the TPOD from the A-10 and be done with it. It seems to me that each company is responsible for themselves and their modules, unless a specific partnership is arranged. Such as the case with the F-18.

Core technologies are developed by ED and are available to 3rd parties through the respective interfaces. But even then, they can still choose to do their own stuff if they like to. An example for this would be the ground mapping radar tech.

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Core technologies are developed by ED and are available to 3rd parties through the respective interfaces. But even then, they can still choose to do their own stuff if they like to. An example for this would be the ground mapping radar tech.

 

I see, the Viggen comes to mind then.

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As far as I know some of the Viggen's A2G radar is going to used with the Hornet.

3rd parties and ED don't usually share tech, so they'll have to make their own.

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3rd parties and ED don't usually share tech, so they'll have to make their own.

 

really? Even though its understandbale from a marketing point of view, it doesnt makes sense to me from a technical point of view. I mean...its the same engine, the one need to know what the other´s doing to make sure it´ll work later on within the same workframe..Am I´m wrong there?

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really? Even though its understandbale from a marketing point of view, it doesnt makes sense to me from a technical point of view. I mean...its the same engine, the one need to know what the other´s doing to make sure it´ll work later on within the same workframe..Am I´m wrong there?

 

Your first thought is more correct. A collaboration is not a friendship. These are still businesses. 3rd party developers are directly or indirectly competing with each other. While it makes the most sense that everything is on the table and shared, it isn't prudent to do so with open flood gates with someone whom might later accidentally or on purpose take all of your customers. It's good to remember that not all potential 3rd party aircraft have passed ED's muster.

 

The following is purely hypothetical for the sake of argument. 3rd party developers Alpha and Bravo are two different entities, each with their own employees and bills to pay. Let's say Alpha develop system X that they use on their next aircraft. Bravo also need system X on their next aircraft. Is it Alpha's responsibility to take care of another company? Is that how business works? Not usually. Going further into the example let's say that Bravo does not develop system X and their planned aircraft has stalled suffering delays, or has to be shelved altogether. At this point Alpha is the only new aircraft in rotation, and their profit increases. We can also flip the result and say that Alpha was feeling generous and shared system X with Bravo. Now that system X is in the new Bravo aircraft it works, and the rest of the aircraft is so amazing that people forget all about Alpha. Furthermore Bravo would get the credit for developing system X better than Alpha and be regarded as the better company. Customers typically care more about the result than the origin.

 

There can be other examples of why keeping information close to the chest is prudent business, but I think you might see how things can become complicated quickly. This isn't to say that some sharing has never happened, but there is a careful cost vs benefit that is weighed when making these types of decisions. It's not done as a matter of course, but usually as an agreement of mutual support, and often involves some sort of compensation to keep everyone honest and animosity low.

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Thanks @Scrape for the good explanation.

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Or they could sell licenses on parts of the software and benefit other parties as well as themselves!

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