F-15E?

Hmm....then why do we even have back seaters still in the USAF for strike eagles?

Hmm....then why do we even have back seaters still in the USAF for strike eagles?

To assist the pilot I suppose.

Hmm....then why do we even have back seaters still in the USAF for strike eagles?

RAZBAM already sort of mentioned it in their response: takes away workload from Pilot/WSO so they can focus more on their respective task.

but we also wont have a "guy in back" independently keeping a lookout and reporting where los banditos are

orrrrrrr....

we'll have omniscient instantly-seeing seeing-through-the-aircraft-frame AI reporting with divine perfection all threats #unrealistic

*shrug*

This might be of interest to some of you,The Jane's F-15E Strike Eagle Manual,Although it has nothing to do with The RAZBAM model,It does give a great general overview of systems/radar and weapons.

https://archive.org/details/Janes_F-15_Guide

There will be a multi-crew ability for the RAZBAM module though, right?

I am sure they will, that would be a travesty to have the F-15E without multicrew, I was more thinking about when we don't have a friend to fly with it would be great to have a Jester AI in the F-15E eventually... We will see though, I do know that work has been ongoing in the background of this module since like 2011 when Razbam posted the first in game renders.

It seems that DCS World's devs both third party and ED are developing a good relationship with Boeing with the F/A-18C, AV-8B and now the F-15E I hope they can give Razbam access to sounds and documents to make this jet as awesome as the F/A-18 we have now...

I am holding out hope that this seemingly good relationship with Boeing could mean a Block I F/A-18E or F in the future!! (I'd personally prefer the F I think it looks better than the E)

This might be of interest to some of you...

thx for that link, phantom

also of interest on that site........

https://ia800208.us.archive.org/18/items/JANES_FA-18/JANES_FA-18.pdf

thx for that link, phantom

 

also of interest on that site........

 

https://ia800208.us.archive.org/18/items/JANES_FA-18/JANES_FA-18.pdf

Didn't see that :thumbup: Thank You.

Hmm....then why do we even have back seaters still in the USAF for strike eagles?

Today, multi-crew A/C are better for working the radios, double checking the JTAC and sharing the load on those long GWOT missions. Originally, pre-GPS, low level, LGB deliveries at night was thought to be a high enough workload to justify a WSO.

Some may remember Microprose's Strike Eagle III. That game had front/back multiplay. It would be cool to see again!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15_Strike_Eagle_III

Since I'm new to developments in this thread, I'm not sure if FBMP is already planned. Is there actually going to be an F15E in our lifetimes?

Is there actually going to be an F15E in our lifetimes?

A few months.

Hmm....then why do we even have back seaters still in the USAF for strike eagles?

To share the workload, the same reason for any other backseater.

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A few months.

but the question is in what state?

Probably Early access mode without any guided muntions TGP or A/G radar modes like ED's F/A18 if its coming so soon.

IF its true that in a matter of months they obviously aren't going into the HYpe train mode, with mini updates and videos like ED did in the months prior to EA hornet release.

but the question is in what state?

As long as it is on par with the F-15C on release I will be satisfied enough to play it instead of the F-15C.

As long as it is on par with the F-15C on release I will be satisfied enough to play it instead of the F-15C.

you mean no clickable cockpits, overly simplified systems but with the Price tag of a full fledged module?:lol:

you mean no clickable cockpits, overly simplified systems but with the Price tag of a full fledged module?:lol:

I assumed clickable cockpits and fully modeled systems are a given with any full fidelity module.

I just want something that is roughly on par with the F-15C from a multiplayer perspective on early access release.

I bought the F-15c module to support DCS but i don't know how anyone can fly that thing with the horribly overwhelming canopy bow.

It's like trying to fly an airplane sitting under a highway overpass

I assumed clickable cockpits and fully modeled systems are a given with any full fidelity module.

 

I just want something that is roughly on par with the F-15C from a multiplayer perspective on early access release.

F-15E is far less maneuverable and fast as the F-15C. If razbam is putting the 229 motor into the strike eagle it will be a bit better for high speed and altitude, but the CFTs add a ton of drag in the transonic region and make it lose a lot of speed in high G turns. It will not be as good as F-15C in PvP.

Now if you had the unrealistic option of flying them with no CFTs and 229 motors... that would be a beast

Now if you had the unrealistic option of flying them with no CFTs and 229 motors... that would be a beast

The Singaporeans seem to like taking the CFT's off of their F-15SG's for airshows haha! I've also seen photos F-15K's and F-15I's fly without CFTs but that would never be an operational thing...

It will be interesting to see if Razbam lets us take the CFT's off or not, my guess would be not because I think it would be a lot of extra work to have the flight model coded for with CFTs fitted and without.

I'd be happy with just a clickable cockpit in the F15C...impossible to fly in VR without it.

The F-15C by itself never had the price of a full fledged module. Surely you can't be talking about the value of FC3? That was well worth the money with the inclusion of the advanced flight models.

it was sassy comment. Thats not what i meant at all

Has it been stated which Block Strike Eagle is planned?

I'd be happy with just a clickable cockpit in the F15C...impossible to fly in VR without it.

Strange. The F-15C is my number 1 airframe for flying in tha club. :D

I've no problems to fly in VR. Mapping joystick for the most functions and the oculus CV1 have a little gap under the nose to spot the keys from your keyboard. :D

wanted --- full DCS-level F-15C (ASM - advanced systems modeling)

wanted --- full DCS-level F-15C (ASM - advanced systems modeling)

Couldn't agree more. I imagine the E would be comparable BVR, but the threat of winding up in a dogfight would make me hesitant to engage a fighter, let alone with a numbers disadvantage.