bumblebomb Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Hi, looking to get a Reverb. Currently have a R5-2600/32GB/1070. I'm a sucker for smooth edges and details, so in VR, and with the Reverb in particular, going from 1070 to 1080Ti any good or should I rather go for 2080 straight away? Does somebody have benchmark values for either of these setups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthir Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 If you can stand it get a 2080ti for sure. I have already upgraded to 2080ti from 1080ti and I intend to go for Reverb as well, NLT next January. I assess that Reverb will satisfy your hunger for smooth edges and details, than any other VR set. My Hardware: ROG Strix X570-F Gaming - AMD 5600X @ 4.7 ghz - G.SKILL TRIDENT 32GB DDR4 3200 (14-14-14-34 CL) - GigaByte 3080ti OC 12gb - Corsair MP600 Force 1TB - 2 x EVO Nvme 500GB - Virpil Warbird Base T-50CM2 and TM Throttle + Trackhat + G25 + AOC AG271QG 27" My Modules: JF-17, F-16C, AV-8N/A, F-18C, ASJ37, MiG-15Bis, MiG-21Bis, Fw-190D, Bf-109K, P-51D, F-86F, Ka-50 III, UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, NS430, FC3, A-10C, Mirage 2000C, L-39, F-5E-3, SA342, Spitfire, AH-64, Mirage F-1CE. My Maps: Nevada, Normandy, Persian Gulf, Syria, South Atlantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxTwo Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 A 1080ti is plenty. My EVGA hybrid FTW3 can pull anywhere from 45-80 fps depending on the situation. If you want to spend more money, I'm not going to stop you but a 1080ti will do the job if you can find one cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pappavis Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Schocker...:pilotfly: my ole' EVGA Nividia 980 GTX + Reverb runs buttersmooth on an i7-4770 16Gb. However with my Valve Index, same setup, same mission, same settings DCS is a stuttering nearly unplayable. :huh:. Does SteamVR do something weird? Given my current setup, upgrading to a 1080Ti + faster CPU+ Reverb = ultra settings in DCS and smooth. met vriendelijke groet, Михель "умный, спортсмен, комсомолетс" [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] [TABLE]SPECS: i9-9900K 32gigs RAM, Geforce 2070RTX, Creative XFi Fata1ity, TIR5, Valve Index & HP Reverb, HOTAS Warthog, Logitech G933 Headset, 10Tb storage.[/TABLE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dudikoff Posted October 10, 2019 Share Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) Hi, looking to get a Reverb. Currently have a R5-2600/32GB/1070. I'm a sucker for smooth edges and details, so in VR, and with the Reverb in particular, going from 1070 to 1080Ti any good or should I rather go for 2080 straight away? Does somebody have benchmark values for either of these setups? 2080 is not really an upgrade on the 1080Ti performance wise, except that it has RTX and DLSS support (both features probably useless for DCS) and 2080 Super is only slightly faster than 2080. 2080Ti would be noticeably faster, but it's way too expensive for what you get, IMHO. So, it really depends on what deals you can find. A used 1080Ti/2080/2080 Super still under warranty would be a best buy, I guess. Edited October 10, 2019 by Dudikoff i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblebomb Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share Posted October 11, 2019 Radeon VII or RX5700XT any good for DCS, apart from the VII's horrible TDP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgie79 Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Try first, then decide if and which GPU to get. Maybe none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormeaten Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Try first, then decide if and which GPU to get. Maybe none. I see some reports on how Reverb is not working on AMD GPU. It is not confirmed yet but needs to be taken into consideration. If there is a problem with drivers will be fixed but looks like a possible problem right now. Also, a very important thing is releasing new graphic cards this year based on Navi 12 which will be in the performance range of 2080Super and 2080ti. This already affecting on GPU market and will be even more after releasing. Nvidia will definitely significantly lowering the price to 2080ti and already announcing next-gen card based on 7nm technology what implicating a significant gain of performances. We are talking about a period of 6 to 8 months. Right now the only gain is 2080Super and 2080ti. Gain is not that big as an investment in it especially when in 6 to 8 months you will have on disposal 3080ti minimum 20% more powerful GPU than 2080ti and for same or fewer monies you will pay for 2080ti now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgie79 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 I see some reports on how Reverb is not working on AMD GPU. It is not confirmed yet but needs to be taken into consideration. If there is a problem with drivers will be fixed but looks like a possible problem right now. Also, a very important thing is releasing new graphic cards this year based on Navi 12 which will be in the performance range of 2080Super and 2080ti. This already affecting on GPU market and will be even more after releasing. Nvidia will definitely significantly lowering the price to 2080ti and already announcing next-gen card based on 7nm technology what implicating a significant gain of performances. We are talking about a period of 6 to 8 months. Right now the only gain is 2080Super and 2080ti. Gain is not that big as an investment in it especially when in 6 to 8 months you will have on disposal 3080ti minimum 20% more powerful GPU than 2080ti and for same or fewer monies you will pay for 2080ti now. You're probably right. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbaru Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I can confirm the reverb does not work with AMD video cards, driver issue blue screens PC. have raised with AMD waiting for a driver update to fix. They do not give a timeline tho... I have tried with a vega 64 and a 5700XT Im looking at changing to a 1080TI as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1080ti and Reverb, in dcs produces pretty good performance for me, I have to turn shadows and mirrors off in game. for bigger missions i turn off shadows and mirrors SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 What's the gain like replacing a 1080 with a 1080ti on the same box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Broadly this:https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080/3918vs3603 However, a lot depends on cpu in this game SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero2005 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1080Ti (Evga SC2) and an old ass i5-4690k here, new Reverb user. I wouldn't say it works flawlessly for me, I think i'm at the limit of being CPU bottlenecked. I have a 3800X sitting on my desk but got cucked by amazon on the motherboard. Said it'd be here 4 days ago "guaranteed shipping"... won't be here till saturday. Anyways, If I turn everything down (ie clutter and the other things that don't matter) and set SteamVR SS to 100%, and PD to 1.0 I can get a respectable 50-60 frames solid, sometimes peaks out to 70. I couldn't really tell that much of a difference for about an hour or two worth of testing. I'm just now playing around with reprojection to see how it goes, if I can get a solid 45 frames and increase the res/eye candy slightly I'll be happy I think. Oddly, I've found that sometimes going back to desktop, opening up MSI Afterburner or EVGA Precision X1, and hitting "default" to reset it (even if nothing was changed) nets a decent performance boost for some stupid reason. Boosting Voltage/Power limit seems to create more problems than it solves, but the problem only seems to appear in DCS. System: Intel 14700k on MSi z690 DDR4 pro, Arctic Liquid Frozer II 360mm AIO, 64gb ddr4-3600mhz CL16, Gigabyte 4090 Winwing Orion2 F-15EX/F-16EX combo, VKB T-Rudder Mk.IV, TM Warthog (Shelved) 2x 256gb Vertex 4 SSD's, 2x 1tb Sabrent NVMe PCIe 4.0 SSD's, 1x 4.0tb Silicon Power NVMe, 1x 4tb Seagate HDD VR: Quest 3 (Current), HP Reverb G1 (Shelved) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waxi Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 What helped me getting a very smooth experience with the Reverb on my i7-7700K with 1080Ti and 32 GB RAM was switching the Experience Options in the Windows Mixed Reality Settings of the Windows 10 Settings app from 90Hz to 60Hz. This essentially allows reprojection to kick in already at 30 FPS instead of only at 45 FPS. If you are not sensitive to the lower refresh rate, this may be a viable approach to improve your experience with the Reverb. I am using Steam SS at 150% (everything below does not look better to me than my Rift S), DCS PD set to 1.0, DCS graphics options all set to high, civil traffic to medium, heat blur and dirt and flare options to off, MSAA and SSAA both off, shadows both to flat, AA X16, global illumination and rain droplets on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabgio Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I see some reports on how Reverb is not working on AMD GPU. I can confirm the reverb does not work with AMD video cards, driver issue blue screens PC. have raised with AMD waiting for a driver update to fix. They do not give a timeline tho... Reverb + Radeon VII user here. My setup works perfectly, not sure which AMD cards you are referring to. Nunc est bibendum, nunc pede libero pulsanda tellus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbaru Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Reverb + Radeon VII user here. My setup works perfectly, not sure which AMD cards you are referring to. As I said, that is with a Vega 64 and 5700XT. Put a Nvidia card in the system all works ok. Have spoken to HP and AMD and they have confirmed the issue. what CPU are you using and driver version?? You are the first person I have seen that the reverb works with an AMD card. there are a number of people reporting this issue world wide as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabgio Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 As I said, that is with a Vega 64 and 5700XT. Put a Nvidia card in the system all works ok. Have spoken to HP and AMD and they have confirmed the issue. what CPU are you using and driver version?? You are the first person I have seen that the reverb works with an AMD card. there are a number of people reporting this issue world wide as well. i7 8700K Radeon sw 19.3.1 Radeon Settings Version - 2019.0926.1648.30252 2D Driver Version - 8.1.1.1634 Direct3D® Version - 9.14.10.01410 OpenGL® Version - 26.20.11000.13571 AMD Audio Driver Version - 10.0.1.12 Vulkan™ Driver Version - 2.0.106 Vulkan™ API Version - 1.1.119 There, I copied/pasted everything. Didn't mean to upset or contradict anybody, just stating that mine works fine. Vega 64 and a 5700XT are not the only AMD cards out there ;) Mind you, I have not updated since long, never fix what is not broken.. Nunc est bibendum, nunc pede libero pulsanda tellus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svsmokey Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 never fix what is not broken.. Words to live by... 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormeaten Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Reverb + Radeon VII user here. My setup works perfectly, not sure which AMD cards you are referring to. Yes, after I check it out on Rededit and there is some individual problems but could not be related in general to AMD or Reverb compatibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solbaru Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 i7 8700K Radeon sw 19.3.1 Radeon Settings Version - 2019.0926.1648.30252 2D Driver Version - 8.1.1.1634 Direct3D® Version - 9.14.10.01410 OpenGL® Version - 26.20.11000.13571 AMD Audio Driver Version - 10.0.1.12 Vulkan™ Driver Version - 2.0.106 Vulkan™ API Version - 1.1.119 There, I copied/pasted everything. Didn't mean to upset or contradict anybody, just stating that mine works fine. Vega 64 and a 5700XT are not the only AMD cards out there ;) Mind you, I have not updated since long, never fix what is not broken.. Thanks for that. When I was troubleshooting with AMD they said go back to an earlier driver but 19.7 was as far back as I could find a driver for. Im going to try to find 19.3.1 like you are using and try that. if that works i will be stoked. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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