fitness88 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) The 5 or 10 degree tick marks on the pitch ladder do not show on the HUD when flying flight level, velocity vector on the horizon line. Only when I pull the nose up above 4 degrees do I start to see the 5 then the 10 tick marks. Is this a bug if not what would be causing this? Does it have to do with AoA you're flying at? Thank you. Edited February 11, 2020 by fitness88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE-AWG Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 What HUD mode are you in and did you zoom in by mistake? "There are only two types of aircraft, Fighters and Targets." Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 What HUD mode are you in and did you zoom in by mistake? No zooming. Vanilla HUD. I see what is happening, as my AoA changes, so does the appearance of the 5&10 tick marks. I'll spend more time tomorrow to better understand how the AoA plays into this. Thanks for your response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE-AWG Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Cool, I have found that the seat height also affects the hud usage and I try to set the Right ALT NUMPAD 0 save for each aircraft at the sweetspot. In case you need info, here's a video I did and it has the link to the forum post on it as well. Cheers, "There are only two types of aircraft, Fighters and Targets." Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrohde Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 The seat should be raised/lowered to have these two markers (see screenshot below) line up correctly with the pilot's eyes: In VR, I usually lean over to the right until I can see them both behind each other, and then raise/lower the seat until they overlap. PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomTOTEN Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Cool, I have found that the seat height also affects the hud usage and I try to set the Right ALT NUMPAD 0 save for each aircraft at the sweetspot. In case you need info, here's a video I did and it has the link to the forum post on it as well. Cheers, Juice, this is a good video, thanks for posting. My only feedback is that we really should be using the same FOV for all aircraft. Using different FOV values distorts depth perception, complicating your ability to judge range and height. Ideally you would have the identical sense of depth for all aircraft, allowing you to better learn and use the visual cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 (edited) The seat should be raised/lowered to have these two markers (see screenshot below) line up correctly with the pilot's eyes: In VR, I usually lean over to the right until I can see them both behind each other, and then raise/lower the seat until they overlap. Yes I also use VR, don't understand your line up method. Edited February 11, 2020 by fitness88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift. Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 The is absolutely based on AOA. For example if your aoa was 40ish then you would be seeing the 45 degree line on the hud even when flying level 476th Discord | 476th Website | Swift Youtube Ryzen 5800x, RTX 4070ti, 64GB, Quest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE-AWG Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 The seat should be raised/lowered to have these two markers (see screenshot below) line up correctly with the pilot's eyes: In VR, I usually lean over to the right until I can see them both behind each other, and then raise/lower the seat until they overlap. According to LEX, the F/A-18C pilot, that's actually for ground crew bore-sight alignment, not something the Pilot has to consider in flight! "There are only two types of aircraft, Fighters and Targets." Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUICE-AWG Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Yes I also use VR, don't understand your line up method. Ask Lex Telonios about it...no worries there! "There are only two types of aircraft, Fighters and Targets." Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tholozor Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 The alignment cross is also used to align the JHMCS. REAPER 51 | Tholozor VFA-136 (c.2007): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3305981/ Arleigh Burke Destroyer Pack (2020): https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313752/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 Yes Tholozor I remember reading the alignment cross also uses it to align the JHMCS. Above 4 degrees AoA you will see the 5&10 pitch mark. I see in the training videos it's the 10 degree mark that's used for reference when air refueling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 So is there a specific height that an FA-18 pilot should adjust the seat, if so what is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 So is there a specific height that an FA-18 pilot should adjust the seat, if so what is it? Aligning the two alignment crosses vertically works for me. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 Aligning the two alignment crosses vertically works for me. Using VR I get as close to the instruments as possible and adjust my height so I can just start to see the top front of the plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Using VR I get as close to the instruments as possible and adjust my height so I can just start to see the top front of the plane. Well you sound like you’re too close and low probably. I put my head where the pilots head would normally be. Also in VR Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 Well you sound like you’re too close and low probably. I put my head where the pilots head would normally be. Also in VR The added closeness helps the clarity using VR. I manage to see the full HUD and ladder [now that I better understand the relationship between AoA and pitch ladder]. I'll raise my seat to align my eyes with the same height as the two alignment crosses and see how that feels. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano87 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 The added closeness helps the clarity using VR. I manage to see the full HUD and ladder [now that I better understand the relationship between AoA and pitch ladder]. I'll raise my seat to align my eyes with the same height as the two alignment crosses and see how that feels. Thanks. VR zoom doesn't work for you? I prefer sitting further back and using zoom liberally. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitness88 Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 VR zoom doesn't work for you? I prefer sitting further back and using zoom liberally. Both levels of zoom in VR work fine for me, just being up close allows me to read most everything without having to zoom in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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