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Old 02-17-2020, 03:33 PM   #491
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And about the Sukhois, that’s well and great about 30/33/35 being export designations, but I doubt Russians still refer to their domestic Flankers as Su-27UB instead of 30, Su-27K instead of 33, or Su-27M instead of 35. I know they wanted to export the Su-33 but no one bought it so it’s domestic only. I might be totally wrong, but that’s the impression I have, that what maybe used to be an export designation by Sukhoi ended up being the de facto way to refer to them. I mean there is a lot of them! I’m inclined to believe it was just slick marketing on Sukhoi’s part, Give your new plane a special name and call it that so much that everyone uses ends up using that name
No you are not wrong - thats pretty much what happened . Mind you, the Su-27UB is not the same as the Su-30. The very first Su-30 was originally called "Su-27PU" and was a dedicated interceptor variant - it was based on the Su-27UB, but with the addition of a retractable IFR probe and rear-seat position modified with a separate radar display, so the rear crew member could act as "RIO" and mission controller. The basic Su-27UB combat-trainer is still referred to as such by the Russian airforce(and Sukhoi for that matter).

Later when they further developed the Su-30 into a multi-role fighter, they first added an -M suffix to denote this. The Russian MoD didn't show much interest(probably for budget reasons), so Sukhoi started marketing it as a dedicated export article under the name "Su-30MK"(added -K for export). It was always the intention, that customers would define the exact configuration according to their needs, so the myriad of Su-30 designations just reflect this - e.g. "Su-30MKI" denotes an Su-30MK with the chosen configuration of India(added "I").

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Old 02-17-2020, 10:58 PM   #492
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Thanks for the info everyone!
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Old 02-18-2020, 02:37 PM   #493
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Well the first one was 010. It seems everyone is sure that 12 were made by 1994, there were further orders but most places seem to say they can’t 100% sure any were delivered past those 12 despite further orders.

I spent most of my time looking here http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/ka-50.php

“Four for Russian Army service trials, plus eight flying prototype and pre-series helicopters; all delivered. Further 10 ordered in 1997 budget and six in 1998, of which first three were due for delivery before end of 1998; initial helicopter eventually completed in June 1999, two more being due by mid-2000. By early 2003, it was still unclear if helicopters from the first batch of 10 had been delivered to Army Aviation. Two operational Ka-50s shown at Moscow Salon in August 2001 may have been repainted trials aircraft.”

“ Further army evaluation followed when first two of four production Ka-50s were funded in 1994 and officially accepted on 28 August 1995; third and fourth received in 1996; these four numbered 20 to 23 (prompting pre-series 021 to be renumbered 024 to avoid confusion). Arsenyev production was to have increased to one per month during 1997, but this did not occur. The original Ka-50 (and rival Mi-28A) were overtaken by the issue of a revised requirement which emphasised night capability - favouring the two-seat Mi-28. The initial order for 15 Ka-50s was reportedly cancelled in September 1998, with procurement postponed until 2003.”

I’m overdue for some Shark time, can’t wait for the new pit, a lot of people would be happy if this new plane ended up being Ka-52, I mean they’re already making president-s, ground radar and FLIR API, it would fit

Sorry Teknetium I was wrong, shouldn’t have trusted the first number I saw online. I love the Terminator all the same, always wondered why even Su-35BM didn’t run with the rear radar idea, the tail stinger is perfect for a R-77 seeker
No worries, any modern Flanker would do even a S model would do just fine.

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Old 02-19-2020, 05:09 PM   #494
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I have the feeling it will be an Apache. :/
It is complex, with multicrew and andvanced systems.
It is definitely eagerly expected.
It would be the first western style, multipurpose attack helicopter in DCS. A milestone for sure.
It used to be in develompment ages ago and is mentioned on the TBS page. Same pattern as with the F-16.


However, I would kill for a Fulcrum/Flanker or anything 4th gen red. Tornado IDS would also be a dream coming true, but not as awesome.


Anything more unorthodox, like bombers or cargo planes would be milestone for sure, but obviously not eagerly expected.

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Old 02-19-2020, 06:42 PM   #495
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What about the tug?
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Old 02-19-2020, 10:23 PM   #496
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Old 02-19-2020, 11:02 PM   #497
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Old 02-19-2020, 11:12 PM   #498
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Air to air load out???
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Old 02-19-2020, 11:51 PM   #499
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