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Old 04-22-2017, 02:34 PM   #11
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We would need a Mig to match it then because the one we have arrived in Korea too late for combat and was improved (hence the bis designation) from the earlier version that saw combat, however the Sabre we have is not too far off the last models to fight in Korea when the kill ratio was ~10:1.
Source on the bis being too late for combat? Because a quick glance online says that the Mig-15bis was introduced early 1950 and saw a a large amount of combat in Korea. According to the source below the model the Chinese received was the bis model, and it even saw action at the tail end of the Chinese Civil War, pre-dating outbreak of the Korean conflict.

http://www.skytamer.com/MiG-15bis.html

I have also heard frequently from other DCS folk that the bis is in fact a historically correct model, it's our particular Sabre that's too late for Korea (as is made obvious by the presence of GAR-8 missiles).
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Old 04-24-2017, 04:14 AM   #12
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The third F-86F production batch was the NA-191, built in California under a contract approved on August 5, 1952. These were delivered as F-86F-30-NA (52-4305 through -5163) and as F-86F-35-NA (52-5164 through -5271). Deliveries began in October of 1952 and were completed by May of 1954. 967 were built
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Right, hostilities ended 27 Jul 53 and the 107 F-86F-35 were constructed in the spring of '54, although they are essentially the same as the -30 which did serve there. They were also all intended for Europe I understand because of the ability to deliver a 'special store'

As for the Mig-15 vs Mig-15bis I will need to find the source but I believe that the 'bis' was first rolled out to the Soviet squadrons and priority didn't shift to Korea until the later F-86F's began to arrive and to really dominate the sky's. By the time they arrived the truce was in place. I'll see what I can find when I get home.
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U guys need to read up, Mig-15bis was in action over Korea since somewhere in latter half of 1951. The best USAF had then was F-86E.

The Chinese squadrons received them late so probably matched the F-86F introduction date somewhat.

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Old 05-10-2017, 12:05 AM   #15
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just to add to the conversation, it seems the Mig-15bis is experiencing a bug which is inducing huge amount of drag when the ailerons are deflected. This could definitely effect the climb performance if you are deflecting the ailerons while climbing. I've made a video demonstrating the drag issue.

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