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Old 08-19-2017, 07:25 PM   #1
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Default What Started It All With VEAO?

Why did VEAO have problems? What started the road downhill? What is the difference between how VEAO makes their modules and how other third parties do? How is VEAO's Hawk coded differently than the MiG-21bis, or M2000C (et cetera), that causes problems with the Hawk with every update to DCS? Is it not in LUA like everything else? Please no triggered responses.
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Old 08-19-2017, 07:50 PM   #2
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It's not the code, that's for sure. It more or less started with the amount of projects that they wanted to do, then they ran out of time and got rid of their NDA because of this. They couldn't make it enough finished when they had to show the progress to ED. And now they just decided to go somewhere else. (might not present the real thing)

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Old 08-19-2017, 08:31 PM   #3
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I can't speak for themselves but from my point of view it looks like they simply couldn't reach the quality DCS customers were expecting. Looking at the Hawk, they have been talking about improving it years ago and even though they have made progress, it is still below other modules.
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Old 08-19-2017, 08:47 PM   #4
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Look at Leatherneck/Heatblur and RAZBAM. The "managers" of these 3rd parties are to the neck into coding their modules and creating the art for them. Literally!
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If you don't know all it needs to know to build a module and only then delegate and you simply "pay" and delegate... you set yourself for failing. And the ones that failed I think had sinned in this "zone".
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Didn't help that Tango, who I think was responsible for a lot of Hawk coding, left DCS quite some time ago.

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