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Its probably mentioned somewhere else but I find that setting throttle to a specific power setting can actually reverse yaw direction or even neutralise it altogether without touching pedals leaving only stick pressure to attend controls for them long flights. Maybe I am wrong but just saying.

 

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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yes. I clear category in all and axis settings with updates. Its probably a CH rudder thing (might go with MFG xwind). Its not bad just not cut out for the 109 without hurting my feet..

 

 

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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I believe the 109 used an actual airfoil as the vertical stabilizer. Below a certain speed, the engine should pull your plane left, above it, the tail should start overcompensating in neutral rudder position and actually push your nose right.

 

IIRC the sweet-spot where both forces canceled each other out was around 500 kph indicated, but I'd have to test fly the plane to make sure.

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I believe the 109 used an actual airfoil as the vertical stabilizer. Below a certain speed, the engine should pull your plane left, above it, the tail should start overcompensating in neutral rudder position and actually push your nose right.

 

Interesting trivia: The Spanish built a copy of the Bf-109G with a Hispano Suiza 12Z engine in place of the original DB-605 (as no DB engines could be obtained). Unfortunately the Hispano Suiza's propeller rotates the opposite direction to that of the DB-605 and the Spanish neglected to change the airfoil of the 109's tail, resulting in a plane with totally unmanageable yaw on takeoff. I can't imagine that it was much easier once you were flying at speed either- the pilots must have developed a very strong left leg.

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(as no DB engines could be obtained)
Not at all, they intended from start to use the Hispano Suiza engine :smilewink:. Airframes also were delivered without tail fins as they must redesign them from scratch, original ones would had been worthless. HS engine just didn't achieve the intended results so finally, almost ten years later, they had an opportunity to get some Merlin engines (initially intended only for Spanish built Heinkel) and so used them.

 

 

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hang on, 109s used 51s engine? how is it possible?

 

 

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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hang on, 109s used 51s engine? how is it possible?

 

 

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The Spanish made 109's.

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the michael caine one?

 

 

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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He doesn't have to look at exhaust, the whole effin' nose of the plane looks so wrong and out of place, that one can recognize Spanish built 109s from miles away :D

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Its probably mentioned somewhere else but I find that setting throttle to a specific power setting can actually reverse yaw direction or even neutralise it altogether without touching pedals leaving only stick pressure to attend controls for them long flights. Maybe I am wrong but just saying.

 

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I believe that it was 1.2 ata? Works for me.

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Throttle sweet spot for cruising

 

it differs but I meant in principle thats why I mean "throttle" not "ata". Like you slowly retard to get needle on opposite side then increase slowly till its on the ball in the middle.

 

also, economy setting 1.05/2000 is better to save fuel. Its really dynamic but I hope somebody gets charts from model.

 

 

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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another solution for non combat ferry flights imho is to use the trim special tabs extreme to get one leg in offsetting instead of two. I think I need to invest in mfg xwind. this in no way tarnishes CH but I like coordinated flying and keeping ball centered as it has many benefits compared to yawy or slipping flight.

 

 

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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it differs but I meant in principle thats why I mean "throttle" not "ata". Like you slowly retard to get needle on opposite side then increase slowly till its on the ball in the middle.

 

also, economy setting 1.05/2000 is better to save fuel. Its really dynamic but I hope somebody gets charts from model.

 

 

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You'll find charts on Kurfurst's page, I believe : http://www.kurfurst.org/#engines

 

Economy settings are actually 1.15ata for 2000rpm, normal cruise 1.35ata at 2400rpm, combat & climbing 1.45 ata at 2600rpm and emergency is 1.8ata at 2800rpm with mw50

 

EDIT : actual chart : http://www.kurfurst.org/Engine/DB60x/DB605_datasheets_DB.html , at bottom


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Thanks whisper.

 

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Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.

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