Oculus Rift S With DCS World Discussion

From what I remember I can read the DDI's in the hornet without issues on the odyssey. The middle map DDI is also readable but the text could be a different font to make it better. Before I jump to another HMD I still have a long way to go since I'm also waiting for reverb impressions and comparison of the rift S to the odyssey.

Seems like the S is performing well even for those that don't have a super powerful gpu and that's important.

The first day with Rift S behind me. Mixed feelings. Setting the PD to 1.5 gives a really big difference compared to its predecessor. Readable DDI is not a fiction with this setting. FPS'? As for the plus. F-18, which always after landing at the airports "cut" mercilessly now holds the frames without problems. Sound, here we have a significant step backwards and not forward. Sweet Spot is small. As you look at the object standing straight ahead and move your head, stopping your sight at the object, the object begins to bend over! The bigger the movement of the head and the object is on the edge of our field of view, the more leaned it becomes. What is the inclination? a few millimeters, but it makes a lot of difference when looking around during a maneuvering fight. That in the "old" CV1 was not like that ...

 

 

Just my first impressions...

What I noticed is that looking off-center at around 50% the distance towards FOV edge, the picture gets quite blurry. So e.g. in the F18, when looking straight at the hud, if I move my eyes towards an MFD, it's not tack sharp, and I have to slightly turn my head toward it to get it sharp.

I haven't yet played with IPD setting, but I don't think it will help a lot.

That said, this issue might be also present in CV1 but less noticeable as the picture was everywhere much less sharp. And I don't want to reconnect my CV1 to double check. :)

But overall, I'm more than happy with the improved picture quality.

As mentioned earlier above, I have a similar feeling about sweet spot size.

What I noticed is that looking off-center at around 50% the distance towards FOV edge, the picture gets quite blurry. So e.g. in the F18, when looking straight at the hud, if I move my eyes towards an MFD, it's not tack sharp, and I have to slightly turn my head toward it to get it sharp.

 

I haven't yet played with IPD setting, but I don't think it will help a lot.

 

That said, this issue might be also present in CV1 but less noticeable as the picture was everywhere much less sharp. And I don't want to reconnect my CV1 to double check. :)

 

But overall, I'm more than happy with the improved picture quality.

Sounds to me like you guys are out of accommodated IPD range. Have you tried wiggling the headset around and seeing if the sweetspot is any better if you align the lenses perfectly for 1 eye? Unfortunately the software IPD will only fix scaling issues, if your pupils don't align with the lens then you are out of luck.

https://uploadvr.com/rift-s-audio-solution/

Possible solution incoming? Hope so! Ready for the full monthy! Mine Rift S delivered today, I can't wait to try it!

Sounds to me like you guys are out of accommodated IPD range. Have you tried wiggling the headset around and seeing if the sweetspot is any better if you align the lenses perfectly for 1 eye? Unfortunately the software IPD will only fix scaling issues, if your pupils don't align with the lens then you are out of luck.

But I didn't have a lot of time yet to play with headset position etc. Will re-measure IPD asap and do further testing tonight.

Sounds to me like you guys are out of accommodated IPD range. Have you tried wiggling the headset around and seeing if the sweetspot is any better if you align the lenses perfectly for 1 eye? Unfortunately the software IPD will only fix scaling issues, if your pupils don't align with the lens then you are out of luck.

Are you saying, 67 is to much?

I played with my Rift S for about 2.5 hours and really like it.

PROS: I can read all the displays without leaning forward, and that is after lowering PD to 1.0. Frame rate was slightly slower but never dropped below 40 in big missions so still strong. Everything seems more crisp, very little screen door effect. Super easy to set up. Comfortable (Rift was as well). No sensors anymore, and there was no delay in my head turns. The touch controllers work great and are feather light vs the Rift ones. Moves in and out to accommodate glasses, which is very nice.

CONS: Sound is terrible. But they have a jack to plug in earbuds, so I plugged in my Bose and sounds great now. There is a smaller sweet spot then with the Rift. Its like the Odyssey. As was mentioned a few posts ago, you have to actually turn your head to see it crisp vs keeping head straight and just moving eyes. It blurs at the edges unlike the Rift. It took me a while to find the best position. The headset is a bit heaver.

Overall, I highly recommend it.

Are you saying, 67 is to much?

Then quality degrades slowly as you're getting farther outside that range. How bad is the degradation... no idea.

There is a smaller sweet spot then with the Rift. Its like the Odyssey. As was mentioned a few posts ago, you have to actually turn your head to see it crisp vs keeping head straight and just moving eyes. It blurs at the edges unlike the Rift.

I'm then not the only one noticing this...

Updated my Nvidia drivers to the latest 430.something

Disconnected old rift boxed it up. Connected the S but it didn’t like the Inateck USB. So the setup did not find it. Switched to MB 3.0 and it took.

Setup was fast and easy. It goes through a firmware update. improvements in the setup since no external sensors. Play area setup is too easy.

Cord is longer. Only need one USB since sensors are built in.

Sound kinda sux but there is a connection for aux sound. I have some high quality ear buds I plugged in. Awesome sound now.

Head set is more comfortable to me.

There is a rubber nose piece you can easily pull off (dont need it) to be able to peek at the the keyboard. Yay!

I did not adjust PD. It seems just fine out of the box. I’m on 1.6 in DCS. Could probably increase that. I did not adjust IPD either.

When at the Oculus GUI there is a pass through feature where you can see your surroundings, just not clear though but nice feature.

I flew around for awhile in the F18. VR is awesome right?

I turned my VR settings in DCS up right much before I flew with no issues.

Cockpit looks awesome and the world looks good.

Clarity looks good, colors look good. Seems all is brighter.

There is still some SDE but not as much. Depends on background like light sky. Definitely improved and doesn't bother me really.

Tracking is solid, no issues.

I think it is a worthy upgrade.

BTW... Zuckerberg is definitely an Alien... some kind of Mutant Grey.

So - just did three sorties with my new Rift S on Blue Flag in a Hornet.

Pro:

Visual quality much improved with the higher resolution and move to RGB stripe. I can indeed 'read everything'. Spotting seems easier now as well.

Cons:

Audio. Just sucks. Plain crap. When I'm flying my Hornet I don't want to hear the fish tank in my room. Iplugged in some clip ons I had and it's now better, but now there is another thing to faff with and cables to tangle. The person who 'okayed' the audio on the Rift S made a colossal cock up, no other way of looking at it.

I had a couple of individual frames of 'noise' like a colour tv snow - not a problem really if a bit jarring.

Tracking however... I sit low on the floor in a home made simpit - Rift kept dropping me back down at inconvenient times... not good.

On the whole I think I'll keep the upgrade in the expectation of improved software - simply because of the resolution upgrade.

So - just did three sorties with my new Rift S on Blue Flag in a Hornet.

 

Pro:

Visual quality much improved with the higher resolution and move to RGB stripe. I can indeed 'read everything'. Spotting seems easier now as well.

 

Cons:

Audio. Just sucks. Plain crap. When I'm flying my Hornet I don't want to hear the fish tank in my room. Iplugged in some clip ons I had and it's now better, but now there is another thing to faff with and cables to tangle. The person who 'okayed' the audio on the Rift S made a colossal cock up, no other way of looking at it.

 

I had a couple of individual frames of 'noise' like a colour tv snow - not a problem really if a bit jarring.

 

Tracking however... I sit low on the floor in a home made simpit - Rift kept dropping me back down at inconvenient times... not good.

 

On the whole I think I'll keep the upgrade in the expectation of improved software - simply because of the resolution upgrade.

You have plenty of lights on in your room?

Im very excited to receive mine today. When I tried the original Rift I remember the SDE inability to read cockpit info was a total let down, made things unplayable for me. I hope this will change my mind about VR so I can avoid having to buy another TrackIR setup, or waiting till September for the Valve Index

Ugggggh. Yall are going to make me go buy this thing. I was trying to hold off for a couple of months at least. My bday is coming up next week so I'll tell the wife what I want. :)

Ugggggh. Yall are going to make me go buy this thing. I was trying to hold off for a couple of months at least. My bday is coming up next week so I'll tell the wife what I want. :)

go down to Best Buy and buy it! ;):thumbup:

I played with my Rift S for about 2.5 hours and really like it.

 

PROS: I can read all the displays without leaning forward, and that is after lowering PD to 1.0. Frame rate was slightly slower but never dropped below 40 in big missions so still strong. Everything seems more crisp, very little screen door effect. Super easy to set up. Comfortable (Rift was as well). No sensors anymore, and there was no delay in my head turns. The touch controllers work great and are feather light vs the Rift ones. Moves in and out to accommodate glasses, which is very nice.

 

CONS: Sound is terrible. But they have a jack to plug in earbuds, so I plugged in my Bose and sounds great now. There is a smaller sweet spot then with the Rift. Its like the Odyssey. As was mentioned a few posts ago, you have to actually turn your head to see it crisp vs keeping head straight and just moving eyes. It blurs at the edges unlike the Rift. It took me a while to find the best position. The headset is a bit heaver.

 

Overall, I highly recommend it.

I think you really need to press it more against your face. The screen needs to be as close to your eyes as possible. Everyone reviewer i've heard reports a much bigger sweetspot... unless you wear it not tight enough..

With my IPD of 70mm I can't say i'm not dissapointed at the FOV reduction using the Rift S, seems like I lost around 10° on each side compared to my Rift. It seems that the edge of the screen is very blurry too. It took just about as much time tinkering with the headset than setting up sensors which sort of negates there ease of use selling point for me at least.

The sound is also awful, but I was expecting that and there is an audio jack so I anticipated the problem.

I still won't be sending mine back though, the readability increase and easier spotting make up for those issues, which are still a shame, but i'll get used to them I guess.

I'm then not the only one noticing this...

I guess this is based on your ipd. By design the sweet spot must be larger to accommodate the full range of ipd measurement. I would guess if you're on the edge of this, then it would be smaller. Mine is 65, and sweet spot seems quite large to me, where I don't really have to get the fitting perfect.

Yep I am using Klipsch R6 II earbuds, sound is great.

Good to know the type of Klipsch you are using for my future consideration.

Coming from the original Vive its no honeymoon period for me as its simply the fact that i can now read the dials and switchs in the planes with no issues at all. No leaning to within a few inches to check them out. The only plane that I struggled with last night was the Tomcat but I think that is just made to look old and worn out.

There is a clean label mod:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3303911/

But what I would recommend is this cockpit re-skin:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3304383/

It makes all labels more readable and slightly bigger, I like it a lot actually.

There is a clean label mod:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3303911/

 

But what I would recommend is this cockpit re-skin:

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3304383/

It makes all labels more readable and slightly bigger, I like it a lot actually.

Nice mods especially Brickdust’s F14 cockpit, but currently neither pass MP IC. Bricks will soon though I believe.

With my IPD of 70mm I can't say i'm not dissapointed at the FOV reduction using the Rift S, seems like I lost around 10° on each side compared to my Rift. It seems that the edge of the screen is very blurry too. It took just about as much time tinkering with the headset than setting up sensors which sort of negates there ease of use selling point for me at least.

I have found a good position to make it less blurry on edges. Like someone suggested here, I made it a bit tighter and also pushed it down against my nose. Seems to work best. After a couple more hours of using it today, I still highly recommend.

I have found a good position to make it less blurry on edges. Like someone suggested here, I made it a bit tighter and also pushed it down against my nose. Seems to work best. After a couple more hours of using it today, I still highly recommend.

I tightened a bit more and put the lenses as close as possible to my eyes and it helped slightly enlarging the sweet spot.

My ipd is about 70mm, so I stopped by Microsoft store today to test Rift S. The long story short is - you can't go against physics, if your ipd is not 63.5 then it won't match to the one on the headset. What I did is the following: closed my left eye, moved hmd slightly around to make sure the sweet spot is at a center for my right eye - a perfect picture. Then closed the right eye, opened the left one, and see how far the sweet spot is off from the center. Yeah, I guess for those with exact 63.5 it is perfect, for anybody else it is worse. How worse - depends on how far yours is off. Basically, for those with the higher numbers the sweet spot moves towards the nose, and for anything less than 63.5 it goes outwards.

okay okay, i can't take it anymore. I just placed my order for one at a BestBuy 20 miles from here (only one that still had them in stock). I should get it in less than a hour. Full report forthcoming.

Madmatt