I quit - View problem

First of let me just say that I freaking LOVE this sim. I fly in VR, and the inability to look behind you in the P51 is simply maddening. I literally can’t check six because the look back key looks forward on the left side of nose. A simple fix would make this sim plane AMAZING but as soon as you loose sight of the bandit it’s done.

I hope they fix this simple task one day and I can return to the mustang....

Use VR view reset in HOTAS.

Look at right, reset, look at your left (over your six).

Hassle but that is way to cheat....

Real pilots didn't check their six either in combat, as it was as difficult as it is in VR.

That is why you have a wingman that does check your six and you check his six. Why you perform turns randomly to check your sixes together.

In combat the wingman is there to keep your six free, and you lead to keep your wingman six free.

What Fri said

Use tail radar in your p-51 it is pretty handy.

What is this guy even talking about? If he's playing in VR, checking his six is as simple as twisting around, unless there's something funky about the VR camera. If the seat is in the way or something... well, yeah, solid objects do that sometimes. If he's complaining about having to twist around... then why are you playing in VR? That's kind of the point. 1 to 1 scale and all that.

Let me tell you what I’m talking about. The seat I have makes it very difficult, as well as health issues I have to just “twist around.

As far as the wingman issue and the “that’s the way it was done” posts, this is a game. I just wanna play it and enjoy it.

My point is, if I can check 6 in the F15 and the A10a, why is the p51 excluded from this view, while all others are provided. Heck even arcade view is accessible ! But looking behind you, no way. This is infuriating and makes no sense...

Let me tell you what I’m talking about. The seat I have makes it very difficult, as well as health issues I have to just “twist around.

 

As far as the wingman issue and the “that’s the way it was done” posts, this is a game. I just wanna play it and enjoy it.

 

My point is, if I can check 6 in the F15 and the A10a, why is the p51 excluded from this view, while all others are provided. Heck even arcade view is accessible ! But looking behind you, no way. This is infuriating and makes no sense...

Actually this is Sim Game, when pilot is tighten to sit in very narrow cockpit you will not able to turn 180 to check your 6 w/o trouble.

In reality, many pilots loosened their shoulder straps specifically so that they could turn their upper body to ease looking behind.

And no, in VR it doesn't work like you think, because of viewing limitations.

Firstly you have to understand that most VR goggles have a fairly narrow FOV. You can turn your head to help alleviate that, but much of what you do in the Real-World™ is to turn your eyes in addition to turning your head. In fact, if your turned only your head, but not your eyes, it would be very unnatural and awkward. Because of VR's narrow FOV, turning your eyes only has your looking into blurriness and/or darkness.

You can turn your head about 90° to the side. While seated, you can turn your upper body about another 45° while remaining seated. And then you can turn your eyes about another 45-50°. This is how I learned to back a car many years ago, include throwing your right arm over the seatback (yeah it was that long ago) to stabilize the over-the-should look.

Even if your gaming seat will allow for this method, you still cannot turn your eyes to get that last 45-50°.

I use a swivel chair, but there's no room for swiveling it more than 10-15°, maybe 20.

So there is either stretch-and-strain to look back, or get your wingman to do it for your.

VR is progressing and there are already goggles with much wider FOV's than Oculus CV1's.

I think everyone is missing the freaking point,

EVERY PLANE IN DCS HAS A LOOK BACK BUTTON,

THE P51 LOOK BACK BUTTON, DOESNT LOOK BACK.

NEEDS FIXING, PERIOD.....

I think everyone is missing the freaking point,

 

EVERY PLANE IN DCS HAS A LOOK BACK BUTTON,

 

THE P51 LOOK BACK BUTTON, DOESNT LOOK BACK.

 

NEEDS FIXING, PERIOD.....

Read this, it will help you to report what's not working better.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=147710

The P-51 is way too awesome to just give up on it. There is a solution for everything, so there must be one for your problem. I think the key combo you are refering to is LShift-F4, right?

LShift-F4 in the P-51 indeed lets you see past the left side of the nose. It is very easy to alter this view with RShift+RControl+Num4, Num6, Num2, Num8, Num* and Num-. When you find the view you desire you can save it with RAlt + Num0.

Because of VR's narrow FOV, turning your eyes only has your looking into blurriness and/or darkness.

Maybe some day VR will get eye tracking.

I agree with BIGNEWY! QUOTE: "I struggle with checking my six in VR, think I am getting to old!" Me too brother!

Additionally, checking your six in almost any modern fighter requires you to look over your left and right shoulder and maneuver 10-20 degrees in that direction. Anything behind your Three-To-Nine Line can kill you and if looking left, roll left and pull a little, do the same in opposite for the right and check your six often. I wish I had a good wingman to dust off bandits on my six here...had to fix the situation myself.

Having a good wingman is awesome for checking your 6, especially in a multiple aircraft dogfight, had a couple instances where we were out numbered 2 to 1 and survived just because we kept calling out hostile positions and adjusting to let friendly get lead on them.

For the spitfire turning and using the mirror are the best options, I'm 19 and in vr even I struggle to check my 6 however that seems to be just how the aircraft was designed. Mustangs canopy provided much better rear ward visibility.

Beyond turning, looking, mirrors and wing man the mustang has rear facing radar.

Do take Into consideration that it can detect the ground.

I dont fly a p51 irl but do fly a T34. I also fly vr in DCS. 90 degree field of view or whatever, in actual flying whether maneuvering in a dogfight or not, you have to wrench your ass around to see behind you, that’s why you see grip handles on fighters. It’s physical work. This is captured quite nicely in dcs vr.. (I did make some handles in my brain cockpit to replicate the handles in the cockpit and they work great.)

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