Kelevra Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Hi. I just found this amazing video about the Messerschmitt BF 109 I thought about sharing it to the Bf 109 section but it doesn't exist yet. So here we go: http://youtu.be/IbeRn1rgoIo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 +1 Great find man ! Thanks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sceptre Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Thank you for sharing! RTX 2070 8GB | 32GB DDR4 2666 RAM | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 4.2Ghz | Asrock X570 | CH Fighterstick/Pro Throttle | TM MFDs | TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelevra Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 Bf 109 pit Cheers An other one where you see the reaction of an RAF pilot when he gets into the Bf 109 for the first time. Not quite what you expect :) Cockpit of Messerchmitt 109: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiloMorai Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Thanks Interesting comments on landing and taking off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIMANAMAN Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Thanks for posting, very interesting vid. The sound of that DB is gorgeous. What great guys that restored it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friedrich-4B Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Ditto everyone else; excellent video, thanks for posting it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]************************************* Fortunately, Mk IX is slightly stable, anyway, the required stick travel is not high... but nothing extraordinary. Very pleasant to fly, very controllable, predictable and steady. We never refuse to correct something that was found outside ED if it is really proven...But we never will follow some "experts" who think that only they are the greatest aerodynamic guru with a secret knowledge. :smartass: WWII AIRCRAFT PERFORMANCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nervousenergy Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Good video. I really, really want my K. PC - 3900X - Asus Crosshair Hero VIII - NZXT Kraken 63 - 32 GB RAM - 2080ti - SB X-Fi Titanium PCIe - Alienware UW - Windows 10 Sim hardware - Warthog throttle - VKB Gunfighter III - CH Quadrant - Slaw Device Pedals - Obutto R3volution pit - HP Reverb G2 - 2X AuraSound shakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LcSummers Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Have the original DVD!!! Its great!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwilightZone Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 ..........very nice......:thumbup: P-51, 190-D9, 109-K4, Spitfire MK IX, Normandy, and everything else:joystick: i7 4770K, 4.3ghz, 32gb ram, Windows-10 Pro, Z87 Exstreme4, Corsair 850w psu, Samsung Evo 1T SSD & 250 SSD, Titan-X 12gb OC, Asus ROG Swift 27"/1440p/144hz/1ms monitor, Trackir 5, TM Warthog & 10cm extension, Saitek TPM, MFG crosswind pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB 605 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 New MUST see video, onboard from "Rote 7" Bf 109 G4: CPU: Intel Core i7-2600k @3.40GHz | Motherboard: Asus P8P67-M | Memory: Kingston 8GB DDR3 | OS W10 | GPU: Sapphire R9 290x 8GBDDR5 | Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 24" | Devices: Oculus Rift, MS FFB 2 joystick, Saitek X 52 Pro throttle, Saitek Pro pedals, Gametrix Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwiatek Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) Great video. 109 is flying very smooth even with slats open. Also nice roll rate. Have better then Fw 190 A-3 in BOS :) Amazing plane. I have some doubts about take offs in DCS. It is little strange even with P-51 or D-9. Suppose with 109 it would be even much strange in worse. I like take off in BOS and ground handling - is much more realistic then in DCS unfortunately. Edited October 18, 2014 by Kwiatek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB 605 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 I like take off in BOS and ground handling - is much more realistic then in DCS unfortunately. Actually i feel completely other way round - i love TO and landings & ground handling in DCS, best i've ever experienced in sim. In BOS these feels somehow too easy to my taste. CPU: Intel Core i7-2600k @3.40GHz | Motherboard: Asus P8P67-M | Memory: Kingston 8GB DDR3 | OS W10 | GPU: Sapphire R9 290x 8GBDDR5 | Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 24" | Devices: Oculus Rift, MS FFB 2 joystick, Saitek X 52 Pro throttle, Saitek Pro pedals, Gametrix Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwiatek Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Comparing to my real life experience with taildraggers i prefer BOS ground handling expecially take offs then in DCS. DCS is little strange to me and too mechanic ( not natural way like it is in BOS). In BOS planes during take off handlig exacly like i expect and react nicly. DCS is other story. Funny is that in DCS landing is much easier then take offs in prop planes ( P-51 or D-9). IRL landings are much far harder to do correctly then take offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nervousenergy Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 (edited) Actually i feel completely other way round - i love TO and landings & ground handling in DCS, best i've ever experienced in sim. In BOS these feels somehow too easy to my taste. +++++ Now, I'm not sure I agree completely with how harshly the Dora leaves control without just a bit of rudder when the wheels leave the ground, as it seems wildly out of proportion to how much control input is needed. It's also incredibly difficult to get her to bleed energy on final, but that's been modeled in every sim version of the Dora I've flown, so I suppose it's accurate. In terms of how both the Dora and 'Stang 'float' when you flare on final, though, then settle down, DCS feels light years more accurate than BoS. I can tell instantly when I've gotten it right or wrong, and can feel how to correct. In BoS, it's always somewhat of a surprise when the wheels touch down, as the sim seems to give me very little feel about what the plane is doing as it flares, or even how high I am above the runway. Ground handling is no contest. DCS feels like guiding a powerful, prop driven plane around a tarmac with limited and somewhat crude input abilities. BoS feels like driving a car. I'm not sure though why everyone says these planes are so difficult to take off and easy to land, though. Neither is particularly hard, but TO is dead simple as long as you remember the extreme response on the Dora to not having a bit of rudder, and to lock the tailwheel till you get some speed. Landing the 51 IS extremely forgiving, as it bleeds energy so well that you can make almost any approach angle work. The Dora requires a lot tighter approach if you're not going to use a lot of runway on the flare to bleed off speed. Granted, we've GOT a lot of runway, but when we eventually get period maps we certainly won't. Edited October 18, 2014 by nervousenergy PC - 3900X - Asus Crosshair Hero VIII - NZXT Kraken 63 - 32 GB RAM - 2080ti - SB X-Fi Titanium PCIe - Alienware UW - Windows 10 Sim hardware - Warthog throttle - VKB Gunfighter III - CH Quadrant - Slaw Device Pedals - Obutto R3volution pit - HP Reverb G2 - 2X AuraSound shakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Comparing to my real life experience with taildraggers i prefer BOS ground handling expecially take offs then in DCS. DCS is little strange to me and too mechanic ( not natural way like it is in BOS). In BOS planes during take off handlig exacly like i expect and react nicly. DCS is other story. Funny is that in DCS landing is much easier then take offs in prop planes ( P-51 or D-9). IRL landings are much far harder to do correctly then take offs. What kind of taildraggers do you speak of? I am by no means an expert, but I think, you can't really compare todays civil aircraft with their "some-horse-power" engines to the high performance warbirds with their max'ed out engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JST Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 I feel like the difference comes from the rubbery and wobbly physics in BoS, which I assume are meant to simulate movement of the airframe. BoS is definitely easier on the takeoff/landing, but it's much more simplified anyway. Weird features in BoS also include the strange rudder behavior, any hard use or even attempting a snap roll with send planes (Atleast the 109/190) into an incomprehensible dance. No real-life experience though, just reflect on every other sim I've flown. My skins/liveries for Fw 190 D-9 and Bf 109 K-4: My blog or Forums. Open for requests as well. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurfürst Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Fantastic video DB605, thank you very much for sharing! Its great to see Rote 7 is back in business again. Also the quality of the video is fantastic, especially the audio recording. Its head and shoulders above anything else, and the sound of the DB engine is a blast, as always. http://www.kurfurst.org - The Messerschmitt Bf 109 Performance Resource Site Vezérünk a bátorság, Kísérőnk a szerencse! -Motto of the RHAF 101st 'Puma' Home Air Defense Fighter Regiment The Answer to the Ultimate Question of the K-4, the Universe, and Everything: Powerloading 550 HP / ton, 1593 having been made up to 31th March 1945, 314 K-4s were being operated in frontline service on 31 January 1945. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiloMorai Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 New MUST see video, onboard from "Rote 7" Bf 109 G4: Very NICE! Notice the slats came out just before touchdown and all the left arm movement to get the flaps down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB 605 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 By the way, to those who didn't notice there's full uncut onboard flight video available here: http://flugmuseum-messerschmitt.com/Feature-Area/Me109_IS_BACK/index.html You can see preparations for landing etc. better from this video. I really hope DCS K4 will have DB sounds properly done...:) CPU: Intel Core i7-2600k @3.40GHz | Motherboard: Asus P8P67-M | Memory: Kingston 8GB DDR3 | OS W10 | GPU: Sapphire R9 290x 8GBDDR5 | Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 24" | Devices: Oculus Rift, MS FFB 2 joystick, Saitek X 52 Pro throttle, Saitek Pro pedals, Gametrix Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gascan39 Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Incredible videos!!! Those were great shots from the cockpit.....can't wait to see the release in DCS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer46 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Thanks for the videos, much appreciated. Must have missed a few of them when searching youtube. This link i found long time ago on War Thunder forums. It's experience quotes from pilots(some with sources). http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/articles/109myths/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendro Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I have paid (pre-sell) but am not able to download the K-4 yet? How come you guys are able to fly it, am I missing something? Sorry but I am new to DCS.:book: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagrum Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I have paid (pre-sell) but am not able to download the K-4 yet? How come you guys are able to fly it, am I missing something? Sorry but I am new to DCS.:book: At the moment it is only available if you have installed the Open Beta version of DCS World (http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/world/dcs_world_open_beta). There you can install it like any other DCS module (i.e. via the module manager). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dendro Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 At the moment it is only available if you have installed the Open Beta version of DCS World (http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/world/dcs_world_open_beta). There you can install it like any other DCS module (i.e. via the module manager). I get a ""page not found"" error.... When will the K-4 be officially released.... I saw 3 December somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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