pagadi-zaiet Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 There is no prop effect visible from the cockpit for this aircraft. Hope this will be sorted in future updates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grafspee Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 what?? prop effects can you elaborate ?? System specs: I7 14700KF, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite, 64GB DDR4 3600MHz, Gigabyte RTX 4090,Win 11, 48" OLED LG TV + 42" LG LED monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagadi-zaiet Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 prop effects can you elaborate ?? ...as in prop spinning effect, look at other aircraft as Spitfire, you can clearly see that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsild Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Without effect propeller it looks strange, a good flight experience is gone. MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Tigre. Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Without effect propeller it looks strange, a good flight experience is gone. I agree, without the propeller disk displayed, the dive in the simulation is lost a lot...:( :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagadi-zaiet Posted December 23, 2018 Author Share Posted December 23, 2018 This is a long standing issue. I would have hoped that by now would have been addressed. I am surprised the developers and customers so far have not flagged this as an issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Because it isn't. In a real aircraft you barely see the propeller in front of you. The effect in the Spitfire is way overdone and that's the unrealistic one. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsild Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 One time was the absence of the propeller on the Mustang, it was the worst period. MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Tigre. Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Because it isn't. In a real aircraft you barely see the propeller in front of you. The effect in the Spitfire is way overdone and that's the unrealistic one. But it is not true at all, I am a general aviation pilot and the helix disc can be seen all right... :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf8312 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Please don’t listen to the OP Devs. Selfish maybe but the BF109 propeller in DCS works perfectly in VR with motion smoothing. If it was to change to be more like the spitfire it would introduce horrible immersion breaking artifacts as with the spit ------------ 3080Ti, i5- 13600k 32GB VIVE index, VKB peddals, HOTAS VPC MONGOOSE, WARTHOG throttle, BKicker, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Please don’t listen to the OP Devs. Selfish maybe but the BF109 propeller in DCS works perfectly in VR with motion smoothing. If it was to change to be more like the spitfire it would introduce horrible immersion breaking artifacts as with the spit For non-VR users the prop cannot be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahdoh Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Confirmed as well, non VR, the 109 prop is not visible from either internally or externally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmy Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 It should be extremely noticeable with the sun behind off your shoulder... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.476vfightergroup.com/content.php High Quality Aviation Photography For Personal Enjoyment And Editorial Use. www.crosswindimages.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 But it is not true at all, I am a general aviation pilot and the helix disc can be seen all right... A faint disc, not a dark black flashing pattern like in DCS: Spitfire. Unless the sun is at the right angle and the prop coating is reflective, then you may see some more pronounced reflections. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Tigre. Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Confirmed as well, non VR, the 109 prop is not visible from either internally or externally. Exactly, if you are not in VR it is not visible ... :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Tigre. Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 A faint disc, not a dark black flashing pattern like in DCS: Spitfire. Unless the sun is at the right angle and the prop coating is reflective, then you may see some more pronounced reflections. Yes I understand, in fact, even that of Spit is not correct, but this does not mean that it is right that there is not at all as it is currently in 109 without VR. It is clear that it is a bug that must be corrected, flying with a propeller airplane without seeing it does not seem honestly a great thing .... :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazingme Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 It is perfect just the way it is. Do not change anything! Specs: Asus Z97 PRO Gamer, i7 4790K@4.6GHz, 4x8GB Kingston @2400MHz 11-13-14-32, Titan X, Creative X-Fi, 128+2x250GB SSDs, VPC T50 Throttle + G940, MFG Crosswinds, TrackIR 5 w/ pro clip, JetSeat, Win10 Pro 64-bit, Oculus Rift, 27"@1920x1080 Settings:2.1.x - Textures:High Terrain:High Civ.Traffic:Off Water:High VisRan:Low Heatblur:High Shadows:High Res:1920x1080 RoC:1024 MSAA:4x AF:16x HDR:OFF DefS: ON GCI: ON DoF:Off Lens: OFF C/G:390m Trees:1500m R:max Gamma: 1.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsild Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 You want a real flight experience, and that requires to see the propeller. MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Tigre. Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 You want a real flight experience, and that requires to see the propeller. Exactly ;) :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf8312 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Exactly ;) :thumbup: Ah but if the devs listen you guys my VR experience could be ruined! You must be stopped! :mad: Have you considered solving the problem by getting into VR yourselves? ------------ 3080Ti, i5- 13600k 32GB VIVE index, VKB peddals, HOTAS VPC MONGOOSE, WARTHOG throttle, BKicker, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) Ah but if the devs listen you guys my VR experience could be ruined! You must be stopped! :mad: Have you considered solving the problem by getting into VR yourselves? It's easier to solve if you stop using VR then. Less costs overall. Edited December 24, 2018 by razo+r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Tigre. Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Ah but if the devs listen you guys my VR experience could be ruined! You must be stopped! :mad: Have you considered solving the problem by getting into VR yourselves? What kind of speech is it? so in order not to damage you it's OK to harm others ...:doh: 109 must be usable in its entirety regardless of whether one uses VR or not. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsild Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) Here you have from Santa Claus under the tree subtle effect of the propeller, use JSGME or manually copy the CoreMods. Warning adjustment will only work for the SP! BF-109K-4 Prop effect: file deleted Edited December 25, 2018 by petsild MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahdoh Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 After taking a closer look at the 109 prop situation, Non VR, I have found that it IS there, but BARELY. Internally, after looking VERY hard in just the right light, background and see the edge of the arc. Guessing, would be it around 1-3 percent visibility in comparison of how visible the P-51 is. Externally, it was a tiny bit better, in the right lighting. Estimates again about 10 percent of the effect from the P-51. Its obvious, the effect from the Spitfire is to heavy, but many consider the P-51 to be just about right. Surely there is a happy medium between how the P51 is and the current 109. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Tigre. Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 Here you have from Santa Claus under the tree subtle effect of the propeller, use JSGME or manually copy the CoreMods. Warning adjustment will only work for the SP! BF-109K-4 Prop effect: https://www.dropbox.com/s/np36f2ijagufy2n/BF-109K-4%20Prop%20effect.zip Thank you very much for the temporary fix but if you can not use multiplayer at least for me it does not have a practical utility ...:( :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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