MadTommy Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Hello all... I'm on the fence with regards to CA... and i am looking for some good sales people to convince me. As i'm struggling to see what the draw really is. I'm a supporter.. i have every other product in this line, from LockOn to the P-51. I don't have a lot of time to play what i already have. I'd love it if people could let me know the feature that makes it a must have for them! My main concern is: The DCS world cannot cope with very large and busy missions... lots of action and units is enough to bring any PC to its knees and cause stability issues. Without a lot of action do i want to be sat in a tank or AA vehicle for hours? I don't mind slow games and being patient.. but i can't imagine enough going on on the ground to make it a fun experience. if i man a AA vehicle in multiplayer.. i can see myself sitting around for hours without much action. Also the AI in DCS concerns me.. its not exactly the sharpest tool about... and the MP scene is limited to low numbers. I have read the news posts and watched the promo video, but am just not convinced.. and i want to be! But having wasted too much money on games i hardly play i feel i owe it to myself to be cautious... So why did you buy it.. and how will you make use of it? Thanks. Edited July 13, 2012 by MadTommy typos i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalnwood Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) I dont know it well enough yet to sell it to you but it would give you an even number of icons in your sig. Otherwise, I wouldnt be too interested in it for single player. I do like the possibilities for MP with someone doing jtac etc via TS. I do like that someone can take control of ground forces when your teams AI is useless and can help in some scenarios. I see it as a bloody good tool for MP but not sure if I would be the person wanting to take on that role. Edited July 13, 2012 by metalnwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboHog Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I promised myself not to buy it. As usual with ED products, this lasts only a few days. It's great fun after an intensive (airborne) mission to drive around with a vehicle and shoot stuff. Being JTAC is also very rewarding, if I have to believe the guy who lased over 15 tanks for me yesterday. Laser on! SHIFT! Targets destroyed! 'Frett' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teapot Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I'm on the fence with regards to CA... and i am looking for some good sales people to convince me. As i'm struggling to see what the draw really is. Hey Bruno, go around to theese MadTommy heh ... and take the .22 and pop him in the left kneecap a-couple of times. He needs to be convinced. If he doesn't join the party in a couple of days pay him another visit (neighbourly like) and pop him in the right knee. Capiche? :D "A true 'sandbox flight sim' requires hi-fidelity flyable non-combat utility/support aircraft." Wishlist Terrains - Bigger maps Wishlist Modules - A variety of utility aircraft to better reflect the support role. E.g. Flying the Hornet ... big yawn ... flying a Caribou on a beer run to Singapore? Count me in. Extracting a Recon Patrol from a hastily prepared landing strip at a random 6 figure grid reference? Now yer talking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurofor Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Only the JTAC and the ability to relocate assets on the F10 map during a mission is worth getting it for. As a bonus you also get the ability to control certain vehicles, which is fun but very simple and in no way comparable to the other modules. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 For me the largest draw was the RTS aspect, controlling the whole front and assisting from the Air when necessary. I could spend 4-5 hours on the one mission easy. Sadly this RTS aspect seems to have gotten lost among the Coolness factor of controlling the vehicles - being JTAC online. For me it is the Single biggest improvement CA offers. But really you don't need us to sell it to you - you'll buy it anyway, you know you will :) Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 For me the largest draw was the RTS aspect, controlling the whole front and assisting from the Air when necessary. Oh yeah. Fond memories of early A-10C: "let's play some Command & Conquer!" :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter22 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I promised myself not to buy it. As usual with ED products, this lasts only a few days. It's great fun after an intensive (airborne) mission to drive around with a vehicle and shoot stuff. Being JTAC is also very rewarding, if I have to believe the guy who lased over 15 tanks for me yesterday. Laser on! SHIFT! Targets destroyed! With all respect for those who love the P51, I think that CA is a better investment....:thumbup:..However this A10 RCTRL+J is driving me crazy...no sense at all My Rig:I7 4790K OC to 4.5 GHz .Memory ram 16GB 64 Bit MOB Asus Maximus hero VII Nvidia NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 T Asus Monitor 4K at 3840x2160 Windos 10 64-bit on SDD 500 and DCS on separate SSD drive. Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog CH pro pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I plan on buying it, with dreams of rolling up on the enemy base blasting fools with my tank! Hitting people all up in they mouth :D i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadTommy Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 But really you don't need us to sell it to you - you'll buy it anyway, you know you will :) Nate There is a worrying amount of truth to that statement.... but the I have a nagging feeling that I'll only use it to get a better understanding of mission creation dynamics with it in mind. I just want to understand what it brings to the table.. not really play it..not sure if that is a reason to buy it Thanks for the input do far.. keep it coming.. I'm not sold yet! ;) Some developer's notes kind of thing would help me understand more about the product.. hint hint :P i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I had to buy it... to see what's it like to be on the receiving end of my GAU-8/A Avenger depleted uranium rounds... :D 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ...the few, the proud, the remaining... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Mitch Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I had a blast earlier today taking command of the Red forces on one of the China servers, and driving a T-80 to Batumi, where I absolutely slaughtered the A-10's attempting to take off. A couple got airborne and started strafing me and firing rockets - I managed survive for a while and even disable the gun on one of the A-10's with my coaxial turret... before I was unexpectedly hit by a Maverick. Still, it gave me smug satisfaction to catch those tank-killers on the runway :D That sort of armoured exploitation has been my favourite aspect of CA in the short time I've had it, and I consider it worth buying. Even if you choose not to buy it, the existence of CA has already made multiplayer games more interesting for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purg Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 There is a worrying amount of truth to that statement.... but the I have a nagging feeling that I'll only use it to get a better understanding of mission creation dynamics with it in mind. I just want to understand what it brings to the table.. not really play it..not sure if that is a reason to buy it It just adds a whole new dynamic to the battlefield. Instead of relying on mission creators to set arbitrary waypoints so that forces meet someone in the middle - particularly if you're playing force on force - you can now command units on where to move, where to strike and not know what the enemy may well be planning. Much better for an A-10C pilot to have a raging war underneath you and actually make a difference for a win than to take off from A, bomb B, land C. Prior to CA, there really was no conclusion to a battle for me. I flew a mission, if I had a successful strike on the targets I was assigned then I was satisfied I did my job. Now with an active, controllable ground force, where I strike can make an actual difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diveplane Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 it will only get better with time guys.. we will have high detailed tanks soon like aircraft cockpit details. https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elnocho3 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I said I wouldn't buy it too.....that plan didn't last very long. But it is well worth the money! I can now easily lose myself in single player missions for 3+ :music_whistling: hours! I now actually care about my troops down there, and take it personally when they're getting shot at. Being able to take control of the vehicles is cool, but the new RTS element is the best feature for me! PC spec: i9 9900KS @ 5.1ghz, 32GB RAM, 2 TB NVME M2, RTX 3090 Peripherals: TM Warthog, Saitek Pro Flight Pedals, Rift S, Custom UFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 it will only get better with time guys.. we will have high detailed tanks soon like aircraft cockpit details. Baby steps.... there are still quite a few fundamental things to do first. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tusler Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 The reason to buy it is...It is 1000% better than Wargames European Escalation concerning playability, future upgrades, multiplayer and more:thumbup: Ask Jesus for Forgiveness before you takeoff :pilotfly:! PC=Win 10 HP 64 bit, Gigabyte Z390, Intel I5-9600k, 32 gig ram, Nvidia 2060 Super 8gig video. TM HOTAS WARTHOG with Saitek Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_M Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Wargames is awesome, but hard. There's one deciding factor in picking this up, and that's if the commander can create, in real time, a mission that someone else can then jump in a vehicle or aircraft and carry out said mission, with waypoints loaded as applicable. Ie, one guy is playing RTS, and the other is his A-10 "unit" Anyone know if this is possible? The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 For me it's the exchange of tracer fire in the early morning and the growl of triple A into the still air, watching the streaks of yellow shooting up and floating slowly down and the return of green tracer thumping off the dirt around you and bouncing up sharply. OK here's a point you might consider: What will be developed continually long after each mod has moved to bug support? The core framework of course. For as long as the framework exists it will get updated. And CA is basically the core of the entire shebang. Its the start and end of everything. Sure the main event is death from above right now, but polishing them off face to face when you aborted early is at least some come back. The options it brings are huge and I suppose. ___________________________________________________________________________ SIMPLE SCENERY SAVING * SIMPLE GROUP SAVING * SIMPLE STATIC SAVING * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacknemisis Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Well for me im holding off till its out of Beta. With steam sales going on I can get 4 good games for the price of CA. Now thats not saying I will not buy CA because I buy all of ED products its just DAM ED why you had to go ahead and release it when the steam sale is going on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Fish Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) Well for me im holding off till its out of Beta. With steam sales going on I can get 4 good games for the price of CA. Now thats not saying I will not buy CA because I buy all of ED products its just DAM ED why you had to go ahead and release it when the steam sale is going on! so the steam sale holds value up against this DCS goodness ? get you priorities right man !<joke> but seriously. that stuff will last you a month or two. this is the future battlefield right before you. spend wisely ! i did just purchase portal 2 for a few quids. Edited July 13, 2012 by Ali Fish [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teapot Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Steam just vapourises my limited time. I'm lucky to get an hour straight, even on a weekend; which is why flight Sims are my only thing. But I'll get CA for sure. "A true 'sandbox flight sim' requires hi-fidelity flyable non-combat utility/support aircraft." Wishlist Terrains - Bigger maps Wishlist Modules - A variety of utility aircraft to better reflect the support role. E.g. Flying the Hornet ... big yawn ... flying a Caribou on a beer run to Singapore? Count me in. Extracting a Recon Patrol from a hastily prepared landing strip at a random 6 figure grid reference? Now yer talking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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