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Old 06-14-2019, 04:44 PM   #11
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Depends how you do it. Same chips can behave differently in the way what voltage they require for a stable run.
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:16 PM   #12
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The Voltage you read somewhere might not be the Voltage that you need to read.

HWinfo is a free tool, a MUST have if you OC. That will tell you what you actual Vcore is UNDER LOAD.

The Asus AI Suite readings are not that accurate, especially the temp is too low.

It is simple, but there are many pitfalls too.

You may beed to adjust LLC to a higher value as well
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:23 PM   #13
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The Voltage you read somewhere might not be the Voltage that you need to read.

HWinfo is a free tool, a MUST have if you OC. That will tell you what you actual Vcore is UNDER LOAD.

The Asus AI Suite readings are not that accurate, especially the temp is too low.

It is simple, but there are many pitfalls too.

You may beed to adjust LLC to a higher value as well
Is there an easy fool proof set of settings for a slight OC that are almost guaranteed to work for me to start with?
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Old 06-14-2019, 06:29 PM   #14
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take a backup of your OS drive before you try any overclocking ... just incase
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Old 06-14-2019, 07:12 PM   #15
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Is there an easy fool proof set of settings for a slight OC that are almost guaranteed to work for me to start with?
Yes, there are, but the downside is that those Auto-OC-settings apply way too much voltage.

They are OK to get started with. Over time, you should read more about OC, get to know the Bios and then fine tune it.

Things to consider:

SVID will apply more Voltage based on the SCENARIO you have choosen in Bios, default = WorstCaseScenario = the most volts added to your setting. I like to work with SVID off until I know where I need my CPU settings with ALL MANUAL VOLTS, then, once I have this ( took me MONTHS ) I reverted back to Adaptive Volts, SVID ON ( allows WATT readings in HWinfo and AiSuite ), and dial in the Adaptive Volt baseline I work from, in my case, 1.25V for 5G. The Volts with SVID's extra on top under load is around 1.35v. The good thing with Adaptive is that it lowers the volts when you dont need them, Manual always feeds 1.35v or whatever you dial in. After a year on manual I decided to revert to Adaptive and play it safer. Both works the same, just lower volts are better for the CPU. It is just A LOT easier to get started with SVID off and Volts on manual...once you got the hang...play with it.

Dont go beyond 1.4v, dont go beyond 85-90°C under full AVX load at full speed. Those are the corner stones imho.

Read read and read even more.


* you should delid that thing for speeds beyond 4.8G imho, it really helps with temps and thus also volts. The colder you run, the less volts the die needs. the hotter it runs, the more you need to feed...you see the vicious circle here ?
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Old 06-14-2019, 07:24 PM   #16
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What's different between the HERO and the FORMULA? I've got the HERO and I simply followed the manual settings in derbauer's youtube video for the 8700. Works like a dream and I'm on air. But I did also use his delid kit and conductonaut. He also lightly explains what he's changing and why, so you do get a little context. I stuck with the settings from his video and haven't tried reducing the voltage or getting any more speed out of it as I'm happy with where it's at. I don't know how much more it has to offer, but I'm running 5.0 without any trouble, and it stays plenty cool.

Delid was ez-pz; I taped off around the area where the die contacts the heat sink and only applied the paste there, like I saw in a different delid video.

Here's der8auer's video, but I'm not sure what varies between the formula and hero exactly, it may just be semantics in the context of overclocking but I haven't looked into it so I don't know:


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Old 06-14-2019, 11:40 PM   #17
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If you got a good CPU water cooler, then 5.0HZ is the must go for 8700K, in-game temperature should be kept below 70C, otherwise lower the frequency.
My take is this. I had the exact same water AIO cooler and setup except the delid'ing. And it dropped the temperature by 10deg or more.

And since I'm a temperature obsessed guy, I had no choice but to delid it. Especially since it's SO easy to do.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php...51&postcount=1

And yes, do back up the drive.
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Old 06-15-2019, 08:05 PM   #18
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Here are some screenshots of my current config, which is based on Adaptive Volts and much left on Auto.

You can try the same and see wht happens


*The 1.25v Adaptive with SVID on WCS results in 1.35ish Volts under full load Small FFT's AVX prime95.

The "High Performance" Setting in Power Saving and Performance Settings ( Pic #3 ) does tick quite a few boxes in submenues.
It's advised to have that set to HP if you oc.

It is no bad idea to check what Digi-VRM is set to in Asus Ai Suite once up and running. Auto can be brutal, always check.
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Old 06-17-2019, 02:10 AM   #19
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my 8700k held 4.7Ghz with like 1.225 or 1.25vcore, held 4.9Ghz with 1.275vCore.

I had to bump it to 1.35or maybe 1.36 to get a stable 5ghz but my AIO seems to be holding up, have not delidded. I don't think i could get it stable above 5ghz, and frankly I average like 80-85C when left under full load for long periods of time with stress testing software, and my thermostat is janky so my A/C has like three settings, on, on but still too hot inside, or off. I.E. I have blankets strategically stashed because it gets cold in here. Might as well be simming in a snuggie.

You're pretty much guaranteed to be able to run all cores at 4.7ghz with that thing. There are likely guides out there to walk you through it.. load line calibration and all.
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Old 06-17-2019, 02:45 PM   #20
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4.7 on all cores is what Asus activates with XMP and a "Yes" from the user. It's gotta be fool proof or Asus shot their own knee.

Headwarp, if you delid, it will run cooler and thus need less volts...maybe next time you take the CPU out..LoL
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